You might debate how dark they are, but it seems like stars of the lid 
should get a mention as one of the champs of the ambient sound.  One of the 
best live shows I've ever seen.


On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 02:44:06PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> rav,
> 
> SAW 1 and 2 are very different in the sense that 2 is more
> ambient.  SAW 2 is one of the best albums I've ever heard
> however, its just ambient that cant be beat within its own
> vein.
> 
> as for other ambient-ish stuff, check out some of the
> mid-late 90s stuff on instinct such as abe duque, human
> mesh dance (aka taylor deupreee of p-909 and founder of
> 12k, line, and happy) facil, woob, omicron, seti, etc.  if
> you want to go deeper and more sparse, check out the stuff
> on staubgold, ritornell, and 12/line to some extent (sogar
> does some great textures that aren't TOO uber minimal.)
> 
> 
> I hope this helps!
> 
> 
> Also check out 
> Robert Rich & B. Lustmord - Stalker
> Thomas Koner - Permafrost
> Autechre - Amber
> ...
> 
> 
> Jernej
> 
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> > To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]
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> > Subject: RE: (313) dark ambient
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> > for some darker ambient stuff I would look for
> Biosphere's 
> > newer material
> > like "Shenzhou"
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> > joe,
> > 
> > Ive been pondering this. Ive got SAW1 and like it and was
> thinking of
> > getting SAW2 but a lot of the reviews don't rate it much.
> I 
> > something to
> > listen to when I need some headspace, you know when you
> just 
> > wanna chill,
> > albeit in a darker way than most. Im not keen on all
> those chill out
> > compilations, im sure you know what I mean.
> > 
> > D'ya reckon its worth getting hold off and does it still 
> > stand out as a
> > good
> > piece of music.
> > 
> > At the moment Global Communication getting too mush
> rotation for those
> > moments and need something else.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Rav
> > 
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> > Sent: 05 March 2004 15:02
> > To: Mann, Ravinder [CCS]; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: (313) first techno record - summary
> > 
> > 
> > first few techno albums of mine:
> > 
> > air liquide "increased difficulty of concentration
> > prototype 909 "acid technology"
> > air liquide "black"
> > ultramarine "united kingdom"
> > aphex twin "selected ambient works 2" (not techno, but
> > related in a weird way)
> > 
> > 
> > -Joe
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Roughly counting in my head in most mentioned order you
> > got...
> > 
> > The new dance sound of detroit
> > 808 State
> > Inner City
> > Juan Atkins
> > Strings/The Dance
> > A Guy Called Gerald
> > Aphex/FSOL
> > UR releases
> > Plastikman
> > 
> > Im quite suprised that 808 are right up there, they made
> > the charts
> > in the UK. Didnt realise they were such a big influence
> > outside of the UK.
> > Funny how we dismiss homegrown talent. Looks like the
> Brits
> > had quite an
> > influence. Good to see JAtkins, KSanderson and Dmay
> represented.
> > 
> > Most of the recs were between 88-early 90's.
> > 
> > Here a list of most of them...
> > 
> > speedy j- !ive
> > basic channel - phylyps trak II 99
> > Juan Atkins cosmic cars
> > afrika babbaatas looking for the perfect beat
> > Giorgio Moroder & Phil Oakey - (together in) Electric
> > Dreams
> > Inner City - Big Fun
> > Plastikman - Sheet One...'93
> > minus orange/ i-f space invaders are smoking grass
> > prodigy - the experience
> > dj skull - raw form anger
> > Meng Syndicate - Sonar System,
> > Altern 8 - The Vertigo ep
> > cybotron 7-inch of "cosmic cars" b/w "the line"
> > "the rise" by v.d.t. (vorsprung durch techno)
> > Guy Called Gerald "Voodoo Ray"
> > Exit 100
> > Dextrous by Nightmares On Wax
> > techno - the new dance sound of detroit
> > Inner City - Big Fun,
> > Lil' Louis - French Kiss.
> > 808 State - 90,
> > Orbital - "The Green Album"
> > Bomb The Bass - Beat Dis (BCM Records) 1988
> > Strings of life 89 (Kool Kat release)
> > pump up the volume - Bomb The Bass
> > b12 electrosoma
> > Rhythim is rhythim - the dance  89
> > 808 States - Pacific (1989) ZTT
> > FSOL - Cascade - 93
> > X101 - 91'ish
> > Psychofuk on Matrix 1996ish
> > The Punisher on UR
> > Dan Bell's "Lost Traxx"
> > Underworld - dirty epic/cowgirl
> > The Final Frontier, UR (91)
> > Inner City - Good Life
> > 808 state gorgeous
> > X-Men "Professor X" 91
> > DJ Unknown "Unknown's House" 91
> > The Future Sound of London - Accelerator (1991)
> > XL Recordings - The Second Chapter compilation (1991)
> > Lil' Louis - French Kiss EP (1989) FFRR
> > 808 States - Pacific (1989) ZTT
> > Jack the Tab - Tekno Acid Beat (1988)
> > 808 State - Ninety (1989)
> > techno - the new dance sound of detroit
> > Mr Fingers- Amnesia
> > Adonis And The Endless Poker- The Poke
> > Rythym is Rythym- Strings Of Life
> > Model 500- Off To Battle (UK Jacktrax)
> > liquid room (1994)
> > e dancer - heavenly
> > Damon Wild's Into Battle remixed by Joey Beltram on
> > Sinewave
> > Sabres Of Paradise - Sabresonic
> > Aphex Twin - SAW II
> > Steve 'Silk' Hurley - Jack Your Body (BCM Records) 1988
> > New Dance Sound Of Detroit on Ten Records
> > 
> > Special mention to Bomb the Bass who cropped up a few
> > times. I used to love that
> > Winter In July track.
> > 
> > Right its Friday, its 12.00. It can only mean a lunchtime
> > pint. laters.
> > 
> > Rav
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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