Ms. Pinky is excellent - though not meant for the traditional DJ. It's
very, very, very difficult to beatmatch with because of the noted
latency. Not to say that it can't be done, I've heard people who could
use it with an adequate amount of proficiency.
Though I should add, I heard from a somewhat reliable source that Dan
Bell has been using it, though I have no idea if that's true or not -
but who knows?
It is great for the most avent-of-turntablists. The ability to create
patches in Jitter or Max/MSP and then control it using a turntable
opens up tons of possibility.
I want to add the FS guys are great. Back in the BeOS heyday of the
late-90's they were extremely open with the development and sending out
early-kits. In fact, Hawtin and Aquaviva came in very late in the game
- I would say during the BeOS fallout around '99 when the FS guys were
already working with Linux.
While I think FS has hit a wall in terms of development, and I don't
see the software going anywhere without a complete redesign, the
progress they made early-on should not be contested.
amg
On Apr 3, 2004, at 7:20 AM, robin wrote:
this ms.pinky looks interesting. latency looks a little high tho (12ms
vs. 7
for FS afaik).
robin...
-> -----Original Message-----
-> From:
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-> org] On Behalf Of josh23
-> Sent: 03 April 2004 02:56
-> To: 313@hyperreal.org
-> Subject: RE: (313)Final scratch
->
->
-> and, i was just trying to make a joke, but what i think
-> makes ms.pinky stand
-> apart from final scratch is the open source nature of the
-> program like James
-> mentioned, there are already some pretty cool plugins for
-> mspinky such as Girl:
->
-> http://girl.yowstar.com/
->
-> josh23
->
->
-> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 18:48:53 -0700, josh23 wrote
-> > the records have these high pitched tones on them. you run the
-> > turntables out into phono preamps and into an audio interface. and
-> > then run the audio interface into the mixer and into your laptop.
-> > the laptop interprets the signal and makes the mp3 do what you're
-> > doing with the record sends it back through the audio
-> interface and
-> > out through the mixer. it's good stuff.
-> >
-> > josh23
-> >
-> > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:45:50 -0500 (EST), yussel wrote
-> > > without the hardware, how does the analog turntable
-> signal become digital?
-> > >
-> > > and honestly- FS was made by some creative freaks from
-> Amsterdam who
-> > > spent years working with underground DJs to develope the
-> system. I
-> > > don't find the fact that they then sold the fruit of
-> their labor to
-> > > a manufacturer a loss of cred. I find it sad that others
-> then bit
-> > > off their idea, tweeked it out a bit and are now trying to push
-> > > their 'underground' status as a selling point.
-> > >
-> > > i know you're kinda joking, but its a valid point.
-> > >
-> > > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, josh23 wrote:
-> > >
-> > > > yes. but with mspinky you don't have to use
-> proprietary hardware and you get
-> > > > that all important indie street cred by using a diy
-> piece of software. ;)
-> > > >
-> > > > and it has pink vinyl.
-> > > >
-> > > > josh23
-> > > >
-> > > >
-> > > > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 20:38:16 -0500 (EST), yussel wrote
-> > > > > FS can play vieo files as well, although i don't
-> know how the interface
-> > > > > would work
-> > > > >
-> > > > > On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, James Hurlbut wrote:
-> > > > >
-> > > > > > Speaking of Final Scratch, I noticed this
-> alternative system
-> > > > > > http://www.mspinky.com/ for $99. Its got a video
-> mixer so you can
-> control
-> > > > > > video files as well as audio files. Plus if you
-> are a computer synthesis
-> > > > > > geek, you can write your own MAX/MSP/Jitter
-> patches to be controlled
-> > by the
-> > > > > > turntable! Word!!!
-> > > > > >
-> > > > > >
-> > > > > > At 01:02 PM 4/2/2004, you wrote:
-> > > > > >
-> > > > > >
-> > > > > >
-> > > > > >
-> > > > > > > - it's not what you've got but how you use it
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >MEK
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > > "Steward,
-> > > > > > > Tim"
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-> To: 313
-> > > > > > > <313@hyperreal.org>
-> > > > > > > uware.com> cc:
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> Subject: RE:
-> (313)Final
-> > > > > > > scratch
-> > > > > > > 04/02/04 02:43
-> > > > > > > PM
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >What's the overall opinion of final scratch -
-> > > > > > >a dj showing up to gig with a laptop vs decks
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >Just a question?
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >Because I have seen some use just the laptop
-> > > > > > >and final scratch and you just don't get the same
-> > > > > > >vibe... But on the other hand I have seen Kevin
-> > > > > > >Saunderson use it along with decks and rocked the house
-> > > > > > >like you would not believe...and I was not sold on it
-> > > > > > >until I saw him up close...
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >TS-1
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
-> > > > > > >From: ian cheshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 3:29 PM
-> > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313
-> > > > > > >Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >well I have had the pleasure a few times and now
-> having been
-> > > > > > >watching him from behind him with Final scratch
-> and Albeton
-> > > > > > >I can say its unreal the effort he puts in
-> ..mentally more than
-> > > > > > >physically..we all know he has excellent tricks
-> but he was mixing at
-> > least
-> > > > > > >4
-> > > > > > >sounds last September and so he didn't do too
-> many but I think that
-> pauid
-> > > > > > >off as his less
-> > > > > > >is definatley more..if you know what I mean ;)
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >I will report on Monday what happened this time :)
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >I can't wait to see him again!!
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >have a good wknd all :)
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >Ian
-> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
-> > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-> > > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-> > > > > > >Sent: 02 April 2004 19:59
-> > > > > > >To: 313
-> > > > > > >Subject: RE: (313) That Friday Question
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > > >i think that's the sort of faux modesty you get
-> from a lot of
-> > people when
-> > > > > > > >they have one particular release that
-> completely overshadows
-> everything
-> > > > > > >else
-> > > > > > > >they've done.
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >Well, in my brief moments with Claude I can say
-> that I doubt he's the
-> > type
-> > > > > > >to "faux" anything - he's a pretty humble guy
-> > > > > > >I don't think the DJ Kicks overshadows everything
-> he's done either
-> > > > > > >His 7th City, Djax, Elypsia, the work he's done
-> with Terrence
-> Parker and
-> > > > > > >his Dow releases - all of it is A+
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >the one thing is - listening to his mixes is not
-> half as good as
-> watching
-> > > > > > >him DJ
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >MEK
-> > > > > > >
-> > > > > > >
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