there are other's (won't mention names) who have offered in good faith to
take control of a stage for at least a day of the festival and incure all
cost for the promotional value in return (and perhaps that chance to sell
their own money sponsor to offset cost). This is actually how it was
occasioanlly done under Carlo Marvin, where Real Detroit would sponsor a
stage and then bring in Bacardi to pay for it.

However, because the interested promotional group insist on creative
control of the stage (as opposed to just throwing their name on whoever
derrick and co. pick) movement has declined their offers.

unfortunate, since these group have extensive experience and would
certainly upgrade the flavor of movement.

maybe next year "artistic control" (ego) won't get in the way of more
coroperation.


On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, quest pond wrote:

> >>upwards of 500 euros for plane tix.
>
> LOL if only it were that cheap from here! with costs well over 1k euros from
> australia. First i want to know i'm going to get into the country and then
> secondly that a party is actually going be happening. A line up is important
> well well in advance.
>
> I'm not bagging the Movement, good on mr May and Co for such an excellent
> effort and im sorry i couldnt go. I'm just adding to others comments.
>
> Could there be a possibility of artists paying for stages if they don't
> already or charging for entry? I mean if i'm paying all that money of a
> stupid air-fare what is a bit extra to guarantee and event happens? It also
> keep out people who don't really give a damn, and would put rubish in money
> collection bins.
>
> Quest Pond
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 02 June 2004 19:08
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: (313) my personal experience at movement
>
>
> TO start, , the festival planning should start in july, not in January.
> The timing issue is so important when you have a scaled festival like
> this, with such large out of town support.  People in europe want to know
> they aren't throwing away their money before they spend upwards of 500
> euros for plane tix.
>
> Even on top of that, the line-up wasn't even anounced until the week
> before the festival, which kept alot of the parties /people from being
> able to plan around it.  I was talking to Mike from Threads, and he said
> that usually he gets a stream of customers during DEMF weekend, that is
> larger than his xmas crowd, but this year was just like a normal week for
> him.  I'm not sure all of the implications of that statement, but I'm
> willing to bet that the lack of planning on the part of the festival
> played a major part.
>
> dense.
>
> On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, it's not just Derrick, Kevin Saunderson is part of it as well.
> >
> > So what part of the business do they need to run better?
> >  Is it the getting sponsors to support them during a crappy economy part?
> > Is it the trying to convince the politicians/city to cough up some cash
> > part?
> > Is it the part about putting up even more of your own personal money or
> > getting monstrous loans just to throw an event and go into major debt?
> > I'd like to know...
> >
> > Derrick can take all the business classes in the world but if nobody is
> > going to give up some money to support Movement - it ain't going to happen
> > again.
> >
> > How long do we hold onto our checks before there isn't another festival?
> >
> > MEK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                       Erin Bate
> >                       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]        To:       /0
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >                       thms.com>                cc:
> [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >                                                Subject:  Re: (313) my
> personal experience at movement
> >                       06/01/04 02:51 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   I would hold on to your check until derrick takes some business classes.
> > ~E
> >
> > >From the outside, Movement 2004 looked like a success.
> >                         But Movement 2005 is in a precarious spot. Detroit
> >                         can't let this slip away.
> >
> >             this is an excellent article - really says it like it is.
> >             I think everyone who has ever enjoyed Movement or the DEMF
> >             should read this
> >
> >             I didn't go this year but I'd like to make some donations so I
> >             can go again next year
> >             where do I send my check?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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