>I blame Francis and his camping/rave trips. Yes it kind of turned into one of those at points! (apology for my deranged behaviour towards the end of this event to be mailed to attendees later today)
>I've been acting up today and talking rubbish so I apologise. I haven't even been able to face posting till now so here comes my longest post ever, relating to several threads that I can't be bothered to put into different replies: Of the films mentioned so far the ones I really like (unsure whether they are techno or not, tend to agree with Alex about the films being discussed being the kind of films a techno fan might like, but is that "rather than a techno film" or could that be one definition of what a techno film is?) Mulholland Drive (+ Eraserhead, Grandmother, Lost Highway and most Lynch stuff, though I like the book of Dune too much to think the film was good). Videodrome (snap on Cronenberg specially Existenz, Naked Lunch) The Phil Dick ones THX-1138 Pi City Of Lost Children atmospheric Tim Burton (eg. Batman, Sleepy Hollow) Metropolis Forbidden Planet and I can't believe nobody nominated The Day The Earth Stood Still (genius, Gort was the man [or robot!?]) + think I'll agree with "recently, eternal sunshine of the spotless mind gave me that feeling that really lush detroit techno gives me" I'm no film buff, lots of good sounding things have been mentioned that I know nothing about so if anyone can be bothered to hit me back off list with tiny descriptions (and likelihood of ever seeing it, don't have a DVD player but I may get one) I'd appreciate it. Ghost In The Shell Tetsuo Impostor Screamers Sankofa the films of Alejandro Jodorsky (this guy sounds intriguing - any good links?) Brainstorm Firestarter The Spook Who Sat By The Door Mantis (the tv pilot) Some of these sound like anime (I don't know what these terms [anime, manga, akira, etc.] really mean so if anyone wants to define them please do, on the other hand someone may want to tell me to stop wasting the time of a list about 313 techno and go and look on the internet - fair but some people on here seem to enjoy talking about this so why not let them correct my ignorance?) I'd like a few pointers in this direction, to be honest I watch little TV aside from the news, I tend to go to the cinema instead and even in a reasonable size UK city like Manchester these things don't really make the big screen but I'd appreciate the info. One thing I saw in this line (but not heard, it was being used as "visuals" at a club) was a Matrix spin off thing that appeared to be called "Rematriculated" and looked awesome - can anyone tell me about it (it wasn't the Matrix prequel thing, that was on too but this looked newer and more sophisticated). Personally (and as Sean said I think this is just down to whether you read the comics as a kid) I love comic book films - but only if they're faithful to the original and well done, recently I've loved both the Spiderman and X-Men ones but hated Daredevil and the Hulk. Must check Spawn and Hellboy, haven't seen these (is the latter out yet in the UK?). Films mentioned that I don't like: A.I. "can i add short circuit, back to the future". NO. I guess most of the films mentioned by myself and others are science fiction (or just plain whacky) and I think this link to techno is fair enough, personally I'm not feeling the 24 Hour Party People etc. link. In my still slightly addled mind this hooks up to Alex's question about what techno is. Which I'm not going to get into here (as I like to think about it walking to and from work instead) other than to say it's interesting (to me anyway) that I used to think of it as being machine music and since a high percentage of modern music (eg. pop acts' backing tracks) is now produced using computers in studios maybe most music is techno now! Seriously, I'm sure most people here (including me) wouldn't buy (or like) the idea but it's kind of amusing to think of it infiltrating and subverting to the point where it's the norm and I guess there's plenty of tracks from other current pigeon holes which if transported back 15 years people might describe as techno. OK I observe whatever conventions are current when I describe a record as techno but it's a bug-bear of mine that I walk into a good record shop and they have a tiny section marked "Techno" containing loop bangers and say they don't sell much techno now where they used to sell more but then have sections for "Electronica", "Nu Jazz" etc. that contain records that could well be (and formerly might have been) regarded as techno - I'm not getting at the people who run the shop, they're labelling things to people's expectations, what gets my goat is people who are convinced they "don't like techno" and then (OK probably unwittingly) make up a constant stream of new labels to avoid admitting that in fact that sound coming from the speakers is dynamite. End of rant. (that was a rant for me as I'm a gentle soul, can those with more affinity for lambasting try to keep it to the point where people don't unsubscribe because of it, me I don't mind but let's not lose list members - somebody who knows Tom C mail him and beg him to come back) Martin, congratulations, you had me totally unsure whether you're (31/3) post was a wind up. I think it is but if not let me know as I will make that front area. LFO "Tied Up" is great and the best opening noise is at the beginning of "Elektra" by The Source Experience. Francis
