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Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:12 AM
To: Redmond, Ja'Maul; robin; [email protected]
Subject: Market elec music vs educate (Was: Electronic music culture in America)

I also believe the 'age question' and the marketing of electronic music is an 
important factor in the success and distribution of the music. I also get the 
feeling most events/clubs/artists/hypes are marketed towards an audience that 
is generally a lot younger than most people on the list/most people who have 
been into techno since the beginning. Ask the average sixteen-year old visitor 
of a big techno event who invented techno and I wouldn't be surprised if some 
say Adam Beyer or Sven Väth. I've been thinking a lot about the question 
whether it's worth the trouble of trying to (re)educate them kids, but I'm 
afraid it's a collossal task that's not realistic. 

So let me throw this question into the group then:

If you wanted to reach a younger, less-educated crowd with the intention of 
giving them some insight in the history of the music, how would you go about?


John

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>I believe the age thing is a big factor. Which is why I was  so focused on the 
>misguided marketing or promoting of techno. I think I would be safe to say 
>that most electronic music is marketed towards a 25 and under crowd,,,,i.e. 
>dance night clubs, raves, bars, small records stores, cliché' magazines,,etc. 
>But for most larger cities and small cities the 25 to 40 crowd is the largest 
>in population demographic.  
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>Come on we have to be honest, once we hit 30 it's hard to make it to these 
>late night events with all of our other responsibilites. I'm starting to 
>promote my live P.a.'s to Daytime,weekend festivals, Gallery Crawls,Park 
>festivals, Car shows, Electronics or computer  events, etc. and I'm getting 
>way better response not to mention better pay. WAY more people actually buy 
>c.d's and ask for contact information.  The music at these events are usually 
>reserved for Rock/top 40 or even some hip-hop. After getting booked I asked 
>why aren't more electronic music being showcased and the event coordinator 
>would state simply,,, "No one from that music approaches me". 
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>For 25 years techno in america has been marketed to a   demographic that's 
>getting smaller and smaller and more divided. Of the number of 25 and under 
>group, most are into hip-hop and top 40 and the rest are even more divided now 
>days between the plethora of sub-genres within electronic music. Our techno 
>shows very rarely pull progressive house heads or d-n-b crowds and vice-versa. 
>An come to think of it,  Even within 25 and under crowds we're poorly 
>marketed. How many 18 year old non d.j.'s actually buy vinyl? Why is it that 
>in almost every University sponsered event electronic music is missing in 
>action with the exception of the occasional  big name trance d.j. hear and 
>there.? How do we expect for american, electronic music culture to grow,  when 
>our music is only expose to such a small portion of the population. 
>I guess I'm ranting now, but a bunch of us down here in the south have been 
>discussing this very thing.
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>From: robin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:54 AM
>To: 313 Org
>Subject: Re: (313) Electronic music culture in America
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>>> when i first got on this list i was in my mid twenties with the 
>>> world in front of me.
>>> now i'm in my mid thirties with a growing family that keeps on 
>>> growing.
>>> much harder to go clubbing.
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>> Good point, how much of it is due to age?
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>we had a discussion with a slightly different focus last year about this. 
>there was a thread that asked for anyone under the age of 25 on this list to 
>pipe up. i think there was one person.
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>i think the rubbishing of things like electroclash on here might be an age 
>thing, for example.
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>robin...
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