No doubt. I guess I was thinking of the big big big acts. :) ---------- >From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 Detroit" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? >Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 4:45 PM >
> <cough> > Last "big band" I worked with made nothing on the actual concerts, in fact > they lost $10,000 a gig - the only thing they made money on was the t-shirts > and programmes. > > Cheers > Martin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "313 Detroit" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > > > I think the point is that people will spend money on concerts as opposed to > records (which in theory they can download for free or minimal cost) and so > artists will draw their living from live performances. > It's a very good point and quite accurate I believe. > > ---------- >>From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "313 Detroit" <[email protected]> >>Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? >>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 5:36 PM >> > >> Not sure I see your point... You couldn't download one before, you can't >> now. >> Gwendal >> >> -----Message d'origine----- >> De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 8:40 PM >> À : Cobert, Gwendal >> Cc : 313 Detroit >> Objet : RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? >> >> you can't download a concert. >> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: >> >>> Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video >> games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy >> (professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his >> field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The >> interesting >> effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the >> tour >> companies. >>> Gwendal >>> >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : >>> Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? >>> >>> Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures. >>> Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's >> dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet >> her Australian shows have sold out. >>> I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so >> don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend >> money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring, >> not record sales, is their main source of income these days. >>> Australia has always had a strong live circuit though. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >To: "313 Detroit" <[email protected]> >>> >Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? >>> >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM >>> > >>> >>> > On the "music doesn't sell as much as it used to..." tip - I've read >>> > that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are >>> > going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as >>> > well, or just some European cultural exception ? >>> > Gwendal >>> > >>> > -----Message d'origine----- >>> > De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : >>> > Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? >>> > >>> > Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in >>> > transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some >>> > kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as >>> > of > yet. >>> > There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves >>> > up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps >>> > less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all >>> > most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno >>> > types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love >>> > of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration >>> > for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks >>> > with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not >>> > especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure >>> > what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I >>> > think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals >> and everything - superb. >>> > The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate. >>> > I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for >>> > videos, ha >>> > ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their >>> > music at >>> all. >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
