Dude(s), it's not just for people from other continents, it's for [EMAIL PROTECTED] canadians as well. I was a student for a couple of years at Indiana U back in 97-99 and thought I had it rough as an "alien" student. I took comfort in the knowledge that my Canadian status afforded me some "exceptions" in the ordeal that was US Immigration. I just came back to Chicago in Aug of 04 for some more school work and the ordeal was MUCH bigger and more aggressive. Rules are more restrictive, "extenuating circumstances" are no longer entertained and the consequences for messing up your visa (i.e. working as a tutor while on an F-1 visa) are much more dire (i.e. deportation and confiscation of passport). If it sucks like that for canadians, you can imagine what that's doing for visitors from overseas.

oy
Luis


On Jan 27, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Cyclone Wehner wrote:

It's not just the French.
I have heard similar from UK DJs and more so Australians.
We've jeopardised our national security and our relations to Asia and our nearest neighbour Indonesia to send troops over to that ridiculous war of Bush's too. Grrr. I get interrogated everytime I go to the US and I never
had that going to Japan, Singapore, UK or Italy.


oh yeah. the france thing makes sense i guess (in the whole
irrational/illogical context of u.s. security things)

-----Original Message-----
From: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jan 27, 2005 4:08 PM
To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Carissa Tintinalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005?

i thought it was an old one at first too martin, but he mentions the date
november 2004 which makes it pretty recent i reckon.

it does seem a little strange tho. i know plenty of people from europe who have no problems getting here, such as bunker who just did a tour here.
maybe laurent's got a shady past he can't disclose...

cant imagine why you'd wanna play here for bush pesos anyways tho


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jan 27, 2005 4:02 PM
To: Carissa Tintinalli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005?

What forms are these? - I never get asked any of these questions, nor does anyone else I know who visits the USA (and yes it's on biz), I know the forms are tough but Larry is just being silly. You have to answer most of
that stuff to get a loan in Europe, can't see what the problem is...

This may be an old mail as well, I think I've heard him say this before and
then 6 months later he was touring.

My 2cents

M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carissa Tintinalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: (313) No Movement 2005?


Even if Movement had the money, city support, sponsors, logistics, etc. in
their hands, it looks like they'd be stuck booking only U.S.
artists......the following is downright scary:

(Stolen from a friend's journal, I'm assuming this is from Laurent's
mailing list)


LAURENT GARNIER
TOUR CANCELLATION STATEMENT

LAURENT GARNIER US TOUR DATES
Fri March 4 SF Ruby Skye CANCELLED
Sat March 5 LA Avalon CANCELLED
Mon March 7 NY Cielo CANCELLED


I am very sorry to have to cancel my forthcoming U.S. tour due to what I
consider to be completely unreasonable demands by the U.S. Embassy in
France in order to renew my
work visa.

In order to obtain this new visa, the rules have once again changed since November 2004 and I would now have to not only fill out an exceedingly
probing application form, but also be interviewed by a member of the
Embassy staff, and provide proof of ownership of my house, details of my
bank account, my mobile phone records, personal information on all my
family members and more. I consider these demands to be a complete
violation of my privacy and my civil liberties and I refuse to comply.

I am horrified by these new regulations and feel really sad that this is
what some call freedom and democracy.

It has now become almost impossible for an artist to come and perform in
the United States. And until this new proceedure changes I will
unfortunately refuse to comply with this nonsense.

Thank you for your understanding.

Laurent Garnier









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