Um what a great friday space out discussion.  But please only say nice things 
about PWOG, they were my introduction to minimal music and unlike  lord genesis 
and PTV they actually made good electronic music.  
I like to think about magic and music.  But not too much just sometimes.  
Groups like Coil have been a big influence on how I percieve ritual music to 
be.  But back to 23, Robert Anton Wilson has writen extensively about 23 and 
alot of other esoteric subjects.  Recomended reading the Cosmic Trigger series 
and the Illumanatis triology.  How did Spiral Tribe stumble on 23?  Um acid and 
new age/old age mysticism and free festivals, seem to be a big part of the 
growth of what we now think of as dance music.  Don't tell anyone in detroit, 
it is freaky stuff and seems sort of satanic to people that are christian.  I 
am glad that Spirals stumbled on 23 they saved it from the bad industrial goth 
music of sleep chamber.  
23 is part of the law of fives cause it adds up to 5.  I used to really 
identify with 23, cause it is an odd number now I like 1111 and 13 and 9.  I am 
now trying to distance myself from 23, cause I have met all these teknoval 
hosers from France and they just seem like hosers (Canadian/usa equivalant to 
wankers).   It is now embarrassing to have a 23 tattooed on my forehead, where 
as before it was just cultishly stupid.  I am glad I am over that, 
tom 

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