I am 22, but perhaps the minority, as I am constantly on a 
search for producers still using the now 'old' detroit techno 
sound. I live in the Detroit area and have trouble finding new
detroit techno or electro records. However, I will say 
Orlando Voorn's new record 'bark before you bite' I think it 
is? Is some of the best and only Detroit electro to come out 
in a while. Presently, this city is so lacking in qaulity 
electronic music. It seems that most younger 'club' kids are 
stuck on minimal, and somewhat boring glitch. It has become 
so hard to hear detroit techno around here! I saw Stacey 
Pullen at Oslo not too long ago, and although I know his 
style has been leaning more torwards house for a while, he 
dropped not a single detroit techno track, nor any of his own 
detroit techno tracks. All I want to hear is that old sound 
with maybe some innovation. Instead however, I am simply left 
to reminisce on the past...


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>Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:35:01 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
>From: fwdthought <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>Subject: Re: (313) The more things change  
>To: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: [email protected]
>
>Robin,
>
>Yup count me in for the afternoon "Techno Golden Oldies" 
dance party in the recreation room at the convalescent home.
>
>San Diego report: Nothing happens here. Some promoters: 
Merge Life/ Kava Lounge, DJs: Tyler Brunnel and 
dirtyradio.net, Austin Speed (artist), myself, all seem to 
come from a classic house/ techno aesthetic. I'm sure there 
are more of us..but we all have a great habit of not 
connecting with one another, so a cohesive scene is never 
actualized...but it is slowly changing...
>
>Easy to freak out the yougins with 'Washing Machine' or 'It 
What It Is' or 'G Force'...anyone remember that Fuse 
track: 'Technotropik'?...first few minutes are bitchin' 
before it kind of moves into that lush 'Pacific State' 
territory. Anywho. The point: A lot of kids, yes, are more 
apt to name a superstar DJ than an actual producer, but when 
you drop some of the classics on them, they freak, and you 
get to be the wise elder/ hero.
>
>Back in the 80's and 90's: You had a lot of music that 
really made you sit up, take notice and ask "What the hell is 
THAT!" or even want to make you rush home to listen (again) 
to a new record you just bought. I rarely have that happen 
these days, in spite of some  incredible/ inspiring music 
that is being produced. 
>
>To Phils question: The context that I hear a lot of original 
House and Techno are  in more lounge atmospheres, where the 
dance floor, though active, is not the focal point. (80 to 
130 BPM)
>
>Has the DEMF raised any awareness to real/ buttkicking 
electronic nutiness? Nope. None that I can decipher out here 
in San Diego. 
>
>I really like the pulse/ take on electronic music that Los 
Angeles' KCRW has taken. They web-cast/ archive. Lots of 
really great music, and I tune 'em in for their electronic 
programs. Look 'em up. They have been my saviours for the 
past 6 years since I have been living in the SD/ LA area.
>
>Best,
>
>Louis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Nov 2, 2005 7:04 AM
>To: 313 <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: (313) The more things change
>
>
>
>Not sure why I didn't see this originally.
>
>All of the below questions are questions I ask a lot.
>
>In the UK techno and house are pretty niche things nowadays, 
especially 
>when talking about detroit.
>
>To a certain extent this is partially my perception of 
things. Like a 
>lot of us I'm in my 30s now and probably out of touch with 
what "the 
>kids" are listening to in clubs, if they are indeed going to 
clubs or 
>whether they listen to dance music at all. I think maybe 
this list isn't 
>the place to look for answers to this.
>
> From a personal point of view the stuff I've always liked 
is the slower 
>type of techno you mention below, never really dug the more 
banging end 
>of things.
>
>Anyone else or am I just an old f*rt? :)
>
>robin...
>
>
>
>> 
>> I?m trying to get an understanding of techno in ?05 and if 
it?s any
>> different from how it?s always been, i.e. relatively 
marginal. It seems
>> that the scene is quite healthy, with lots of good new 
music, but it
>> also seems that it?s never going to grow beyond it?s 
current niche
>> 'market', if you like.
>> 
>> I know that once people hear proper techno & house, they 
dig it, but I?m
>> curious to know how & where it?s being heard & enjoyed and 
if it?s
>> audience has changed at all in the last 20 years.
>> 
>> Do you think that there is a greater awareness and 
appreciation of 313
>> techno over the past 5 or 6 years, i.e. post-DEMF / 
Movement?
>> 
>> If you?re a label or shop owner - are you selling more 
records & CDs?
>> 
>> If you?re a radio or club DJ - do you play much techno and 
what kind of
>> response or feedback to you get? I have noticed that there 
are quite a
>> lot of new releases with relatively slow tempos, under 125 
BPM or
>> thereabouts. Does this make a difference to where and when 
you play
>> these records, given the fact that they?re clearly not ?
peak time?
>> records for most club dancefloors?
>> 
>> Innerested to hear what peeps have found. Thanx. Sorry for 
the lousy
>> formatting.
>> 
>> philski
>> 
>> 
>> 
>

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