Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:

On Thu, November 3, 2005 7:40 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Musically we are living in a period where every form of noise has been
"liberated" - not to express something but rather to be explored for its
own sake. I don't need music to carry some supposed meaning or feeling.
There is a place for music with feeling, but there is also a place for
abstract music that explores structured sonic possibilities for their own
sake.

Techno was ALWAYS about the surface anyway, it never was substantive
compared to, say, Mozart. Techno is a special effect, a slowly mutating
surface of noise vibrating over extremely repetitive rhythmic patters. And
that is just fine with me.

dave, youre my man but this is nonsense. making noise is just that: making
noise. its not music. i own noise records. im not against noise. but its
not the same game as making music. music DOES come with meaning and
feeling. thats the whole point. without it, you could just listen to
random sounds around you and feel as satisfied as if you just listened to
a record. and since thats not the case, theyre not the same.

tom



"noise" is a relative term and depends a lot on what you presume "music" to be.

To someone from the 10th century, I'm sure Schumann and Beethovan would sound very much like sound exploration for its own sake and ultimately "noisey". Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" was denounced as "noise" and caused a riot at its first performance. The same was also once said of Satie's music. Yet how many people today would consider their music to be "noise" or "lacking in meaning and feeling"? If this shift in what is considered "noise" is true for them, then why is techno any different? Its an altogether different musical form and aesthetic from the traditional legacy European court and folk musics. Why should musical standards from a certain corner of the world several centuries ago be used as a measuring stick for a modern musical form that focuses on rhythmic interplay and aural nuance more often than it does on traditional harmonic/melodic development?


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