I don't think the fest should necessarily take that route, but I was
just arguing if you *wanted* to follow the latest trend, that's the
way to go. I think this year's festival is representing a certain
sound/scene, not the latest sound.
My favourite year was the Movement year probably... or the year Carl
did it before Marvin intervened. But if it assumes a different
character every year that's a good thing - so long as it's not all
rave. BTW I don't think Derrick will be playing in 2006 from what I
have been told but you never know.
I do like some of that emotronica (cute name!) and I've never, ever
been into indie (aside from Echo & The Bunnymen). Richie Hawtin is
supporting that sound, and is a big Nathan Fake fan, as it happens!!!
I have his album and like it, but I also like the Voom Voom album at
present (v good Detroit sounds on there, minimal, the lot, great stuff).
The vibe on Gnarls is massive which intrigues me - as why now? I love
that album but I have followed everything Cee-Lo does for years. It's
very eccentric.
If I were to advise on the fest (not likely!) I'd have Kelley Polar
for sure.
On 19/04/2006, at 12:29 AM, J.T. wrote:
haha thats what i was about to say..gnarls barkley? ceelo and
dangermouse? soul will never be "hot hot hot" and neither is
ceelo's voice...very acquired taste.
and emotronica or whatever is really developing in a whole
different sphere than dance music...indie kids and hipsters and
post-rockers etc....i know lots of these types...and now they're
digging into old chi house and stuff. mostly they dont really get
detroit techno...i dunno...it's pretty weird. gentrification of
electronic music pt 17
every year of the festival there has been plenty of detroit techno,
underground electro, underground house...with a sprinkling of more
popular stuff. this year that's flipped, err except no electro at
all so far and uh...welll...we'll seeee
the festival was special for being a "success" (doh!) even while it
pushed lesser-known (but QUALITY) electronic music -- the kinda
stuff 313 used to be about. it's no surprise if it cant keep doing
that....but it also loses everything that made it so special.
i'm really tired, feeling cynical...i should just leave it to MEK,
who i think has put things very eloquently...
<ot>
Gnarls barkley sucks fatty. The only good song is "I try" and it's
amazing. The rest shows they obviously didn't. same ole shxt on every
other track.
</ot>
K
-----Original Message-----
From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 AM
To: 313 list
Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza
I wouldn't say it's the latest sounds on there, it's all pretty
established, as I see it - the scene moves pretty fast.
I think the next big thing will be that electronic type emo of Nathan
Fake, and Border Community (which I really like but is v trendy).
Sebastien Tellier even...
If you wanted to be really hot hot hot you'd also get Gnarls Barkley
for the urban side.
I think the line-up is repping a certain scene different to before,
that happens every year, keeps it different at least?
On 18/04/2006, at 4:32 AM, fabrice Lig wrote:
I think its a good thing to follow the new trends for a festival,
but last year was perfect...Paxahau's job in their room was great,
different than the main stage, more clubby atmosphere.
But for me a Detroit festival is the chance to let all the Detroit
legend and new artists from Detroit to express themselves in front
of the people they deserve...So I mean, all the U.R, Transmat,
Puzzlebox, Metroplex, KMS, etc people...Some special things...why
not a J.Mills Wizard mix...Or philarmonic orchestra with U.R/Jeff
Mills like in France. Some Hip-Hop artists from Detroit was a good
idea...some Jazz stuff too...
I remember last year, U.R camp' stress before their Live act...It
was the first time they played live in fromt onf their
families...Thats, what we expect as Detroit fans...See some Detroit
artist playing in their real environment, I think its something
special.
At first a DETROIT tribute and then, some "support" artists like
the European new artists or confirmed...But as I've seen in a
previous message..., why to do a kind of Sonar or other European
festival in US, when you are in the city where everything
started...something than no other cities in the world can do ?
Also, I'm afraid then the Mutek line up will be a bit similar than
Detroit festival as they have lot of minimal acts...so even
commercialy, I think its maybe not so good for the festival.
So, finaly..........Its a bit like doing a "sweets" festival in
switzerland without chocolate as the star of the
show ... ;-)...sorry for the comparison, ah ! ah !
Fabrice
Fabrice Lig
http://www.multimania.com/fabricelig/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: (313) it's a rave in hart plaza
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:27:15 -0500
I'd rather it not happen at all instead of going this way (Derrick
Carter,
Donald Glaude, Planet of Drums, Josh Wink, Doc Martin, the
overload of
minimal, etc.)
What I've noticed in all the previous incarnations, from DEMF
(original) to
Movement to Fuse-In, the music was progressive - as in future
moving -
forward thinking.
The line-up for Pax's version of DEMF is mostly artists of today -
right
this split second - not the stuff that will be in a year or two.
The rest of the line-up can't be announced too soon.
MEK
Fred Heutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 04/14/2006
09:27:52 PM:
The festival has always had its ups and downs. I'm just glad
it's happening after all. Another year, another totally off the
hook
drama :)
Fred
