btw, this topic should currently not be posted in any more public places. As 
said, the gema is not yet on the hunt, i also doubt they'll ever start doing 
it. But by providing false or personally interpreted information we're not 
going to get much further in the situation.

ronny

>I think there's quite a bit of misinformation going on there. As far as
>i know Thinner wasn't contacted nor warned by the GEMA. Sebastian was aware of 
>these circumstances and due to the recent GEMA developments on the digital 
>domain he doesn't want to take any risks.
>
>It's currently not the situation that the GEMA is hunting netlabels in order 
>to shoot them down. I doubt they'll ever have the internal capacities to 
>handle it like this. If you were member of the GEMA for many years with 
>several requests such as i had, you know that the left hand doesn't know what 
>the right hand's up to there. 
>
>Netlabel owners have to watch out and prepare themselves. Clear the situation 
>between you and your artists.
>
>Now for the important part.
>
>IF YOU'RE GEMA MEMBER AND NETLABEL ARTIST THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN DO TO 
>IMPROVE THE SITUATION IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR TRACKS ONLINE.
>
>You can restrict your membership contract by limiting it to physically 
>reproduced media only. This means that only "hard" media will be taken into 
>credit by the GEMA. I was about to limit my contract this way in 
>correspondence with GEMA authorities but decided to quit anyway.
>
>
>Last not least i think we as Artists and netlabel owners should RISE AND 
>PROTEST. It can't be that we have to suffer under an ancient system that keeps 
>looking backwards. I believe that every artist should have the right to decide 
>how his copyrights are being handled and i regard the situation as is as 
>inacceptable.
>
>Join the chant.
>
>Ronny
>
>>This just dropped into my inbox from the netaudio group, directed to 
>>netlabel owners:
>><snip>
>>=================
>>The German Institution GEMA www.gema.de (German equivalent to RIAA)
>>will NOT allow GEMA Acts on Netlabels for free, because they will bill
>>your DOWNLOADS (12,5 european Cent per Download) for their protecting
>>rights, because these Acts are members of the GEMA organisation.
>>
>>To all Netlabels of Switzerland:
>>ask your SUISA Organisation, if you have the rights to offer
>>downloadiong tracks of SUISA members.
>>I think, they have similar rules like the German Organisation GEMA.
>>
>>Thinner was the first Netlabel, they receive a warning from GEMA, so
>>read this on mnml.nl:
>>
>>http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10615 
>><http://www.mnml.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10615>
>>
>>Ask your Acts, if they are registered members of the German
>>Institution GEMA. If yes, its the only way to sell this stuff for a
>>minimum price on internet (on your pages/shop section, Beatport etc.)
>>and announce/register this tracks with GEMA) or to delete it.
>>
>>Its only allowed to stream Stuff of GEMA Members on the Original Page.
>>
>>Its also NOT allowed to offer some "Promo" DJ-Mixes or Podcasts with
>>GEMA Stuff in it (without registration to GEMA).
>>
>>Here are (sorry, only in German) a good information site about music
>>rights on internet:
>>http://irights.de/index.php?id=461 <http://irights.de/index.php?id=461>
>>http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/ <http://www.urheberrecht.org/news/>
>><snip>
>>
>>....................................ugh.
>>
>>                                                          jeff
>>

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