On 2/13/07, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

come on though, would such great music be created in america if
individuality wasnt such a big deal here? i dont think so!

tom


Yes. Until the birth of electronic music, most music was NOT created
by just an individual.

Take any great jazz group (for me, the classic groups of Thelonius
Monk, Miles Davis, or John Coltrane) and you will find that the
individuality of the players is expressed in such a way that it
complements the what is being expressed by the group as a whole.
Individual identity only emerges through group interaction - perhaps
such a process could properly be called "dialectical".

And in classical/orchestral music, great classical composers might
have heard amazing, totally original music in their heads, but getting
the music performed required convincing some hapless musicians that
the music was worth learning and performing.

Only with electronic music, is it possible to get rid of the group and
create without consideration for others. This is probably a double
edged sword. I'm glad I can make my own CD with only a cheap $50
computer, especially considering I've written a string quartet that
has never been performed, that is just sitting in a box in my closet.
But collective music making is a very rewarding experience, and I
often miss it these days.

Also, there are reasons why I think art, even the kind made by a lone
individual, is NEVER really individualistic, but it gets into the
philosophical nature of language as socially constructed, and the
preconditions of artistic expression, so it's probably better reserved
for something like the microsound list.

Suffice it to say that anyone who releases a CD, obviously imagines
some kind of audience for their music, even if it's an imaginary/ideal
audience. To bring it back to the Mad Mike interview: it would seem
that some of the frustration of the Detroit techno pioneers (including
2nd wave), is precisely in the tremendous gap between the imagined
audience, which includes some significant audience in the
African-American community, and the real audience, which is more or
less European and white. This gap between the imagined audience and
the real audience raises a lot of interesting questions about what how
culture is enjoyed, by who, and why.

~David

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