Hi - lurker here - isn't this simply called "appropriation"? And I don't even mean that in any specific racial context, since I think you could frame it in terms of generation or even just in terms of "scenes".
but anyway, yeah, Spankrock and supposed "white scenesters" are doing their thing and showing influence from a sound that they're genuinely fans of. And I think that is the correct characterization of it too: They are definitely not ripping it off or watering it down - but taking (and what they're taking is basically summed up by the ubiquitous break beat and sample-looping style) and adding to it a lot of different other elements from electro, freestyle, miami bass, drum and bass (esp. w/ tittsworth), and even UK garage styles. I mean, on this board is anyone here still got beef with people in the UK becoming fans of hey-day late 80's techno from Detroit and Chicago... and (fake gasp) making their own takes on those styles? I think its a pollination from the winds effect ... a natural force (or component or effect) of culture... what's the problem?! ----- Original Message ---- From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 8:56:59 AM Subject: Re: (313) Justice On 6/27/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i dunno man, sometimes it's unfair to blame the artist. blame the > hypemachine(s). > everything i've read about him is very humble and straightforward -- and > doesn't even > mention bmore. it's all nyc...i dunno. other bmore stuff can blow up in it's > own right, i don't > see that ayres and spank are holding anybody down, unless they really did > steal > someone else's sound straight up...but i don't hear that, at least not with > what i've heard... its not about straight up stealing a sound, its about getting popular with a watered down version of something that isnt even his to water down. theyre the elvises of club music. > i mean technics and a bunch of other bmore guys are all up in the soundtrack > to The > Wire and i thought they had some major record deals stemming from that? they > are > definitely representing bmore in that show at least, which is a pretty big > deal... yeah, they also reference it in dialogue as well, which is really dope. the guys who make that show go out of their way to make sure that they represent baltimore properly. > i don't hear it that way. their music is a joke, but that doesn't mean the > music they are > influenced by is, or that their music isn't still good. see pubahs at least pubah's was still getting play from real ghetto and electro deejays in detroit. ive never seen or heard of one of the real bmore deejays dropping spankrock tunes. > you probably will hear some bad stuff and get turned off...they're all like > 17-19 years old, > max. and they are hot on mtv etc. still, i approve. if you don't like too > short, you probably > won't like this either tho (lyrics are cleaner, but the rest is too short > evolved...) im down with some shorty the pimp. tom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
