Assume this:  I find it odd that listmembers appear interested in paying for
something when connected to that product is the fact that its media can
endlessly be gotten for free.

Here are some other *terribly* foolish assumptions:

No one will pirate music.

Everyone will play only their own mp3s.

DJs will pay royalties for mp3s they do not already own.

Everyone will pay the sticker price for FS/digital DJ software.

No secondary manufacturers will duplicate any necessary hardware.

C'mon.  I don't really care one way or another about this product, but I
find it quite hypocritical that so many people are just ready to jump right
on it without considering their prior ethical stances on said issues of
privacy, economics, and intellectual property.

And funny too that you and I should be at odds again on the topic of
technology and art.  Let's rewind.  You referenced the invention of cameras
and the corollary development (pardon the pun) of photography as an art in a
blanket attempt to defend new technology.  I'm certainly not a Luddite, and
don't wish to follow that line of argument.  But while some photographs may
be considered art, not all _are_ really art.  The same holds for DJing:

"Recently, photography has become almost as widely practiced an amusement as
sex and dancing -- which means that, like every mass art form, photography
is not practiced by most people as an art.  It is mainly a social rite, a
defense against anxiety, and a tool of power."

Susan Sontag, "On Photography"

When I began debating this issue, I maintained that FS (and by extension all
digital DJ tools) undermined what is, essentially, a difficult and oft-ill
practiced mass art form.  As I'm sure most would agree, some practice the
art much better than others.  I asserted that digital DJ tools erode much of
what is left of turntable manipulation as art by further diluting the music,
style and technique of the (subjectively) "good" DJ.  Furthermore, there are
some critical issues of ethics pertaining to intellectual property,
copyright and artist patronage of medias that drive digital DJ tools.

Vince

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To: "Vince Woolums" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [313] FnalScratch package price


> > Subject: Re: [313] F!nalScratch package price
> >
> > > how much is the software without the laptop?
> >
> > It will be free.  Thanks to our friends at Rad!um (et al) and peer to
peer
> > traders like Kzaa and Morpheu5, no one will ever need to buy software
again
> > (or until there is a universal distributed app system).
>
> a whole hell of a lot of good it'll do you without the hardware that goes
> along with it, too.
>
> > Since we're all OK with pirating music, why continue discussing the cost
of
> > FS software?  Are we all suddenly concerned about supporting software
> > programmers, manufacturers and distributors?
>
> i think you're making a lot of foolish assumptions with this statement.
>
> chris


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