no no no 

correction:  

this was not written for the use against any one
of the originators and artists from Detroit as Mr Atkins,
I was not saying that, no way, -
Juan Atkins is the father of this music.
He created this. - His Music is absolutely oustanding
His label is one of the best labels in the scene
and it´s not 15 years ago what the hell are you talking bout ?
When he want´s to move to another level and he is scanning the justice of
the music-industry by experience, by having created the ground for a scene
before - it´s something completly different to what my statement was about.
it was about the robot-kind-of-business-men-philosophy, ONLY being about
business, as I was responding to the communication between Otto and Big
Loada and that was about a different state of mind. I was answering
to the statement - business first and music second -
and yes giving special props to them staying independent
cauze it´s a long way to go and some failed before reaching the goal
and don´t deny that and what that can mean, how hard this can be.
it is about surviving too -
Mr Juan Atkins is a part of the scene whatever
he also is fighting for now and whereever he is living
this is his life and only because he is talking about business
aspects and is involved with bigger business
that doesn´t mean it´s his main subject -
his quotes make sense to me (as far as the xlr8r interview
for example was correct) and people can learn from it.
That doesn´t proove them wrong, taking another route.
Some things he is explaining seem to proove them
but all people of the scene who made this happen,
because they were about music first and then the business
they deserve my full respect and get it.
who am I to say anything else ?
so don´t use my words for your own moral concept
when your going to judge prooved outstanding artists
I was not talking about this point of view
though I will not reject your opinion for yourself

but don´t play the artists against each other

because I think there are other really shady people already

calculating with this for some business, some big events ...




> yeah, i think a lot of people are forgetting that there are plenty of
> newer artist who do better with each release.
> 
> just because juan or any of the old guard are having problems doesn't mean
> that al is lost.
> 
> you shouldn't judge the strength of the scene by the career of the guys
> who did it fifteen years ago. Look at the people wo are doing it now.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Neontsetse wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> The fact that they don't do it for techno... *shrug*... Their loss. It
>>> gives us the chance to do it our way. And the fact that we've succeeded
>>> so far pretty much without them... it pisses them off to no end. I like
>>> :)
>>> 
>> 
>>> Otto
>>> 
>> 
>> yeah, keep em behind -
>> 
>> all the hard working independent labels and artists
>> 
>> will rise and rise and rise
>> 
>> above the business machines
>> 
>> soon Detroit techno labels will be even more succssfull,
>> 
>> independent and many will be owned by briliant artists,
>> 
>> many of them being black
>> 
>> making highest quality music
>> 
>> - that´s what I call good business
>> 
>> making it happen, though no one
>> 
>> would have seen this happen when it started
>> 
>> full strike
>> 
>> get of our back with any programmed vision
>> 
>> how business works or should work
>> 
>> and we still can blame the other´s,
>> 
>> waiting for the bigger succes to step in then
>> 
>> for making the quick buck´s
>> 
>> buck off - Detroit techno shows us, what we want it to be like
>> 
>> this is why this list is here
>> 
>> DETROIT RISE
>> 
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