Emile and I used to shop at Big Apple in Croydon, and it's interesting seeing 
all the little whippersnappers who populated the shop in the days when you 
could buy a Chain Reaction record in there (the shop changed hands a few years 
ago) now being big names in this genre, such as Benga and Hatcha (real name 
Terry). Arthur Smith, who recorded as Grain, is one of the key influences in 
this techno element. His Red EP is still my favourite record...

http://www.discogs.com/release/82528





-----Original Message-----
From: Emile Facey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 October 2007 12:15
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: Mann, Ravinder; Martin Dust; 313 List
Subject: Re: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology


 From a grandads (not sure if I count at only 35) point of view, the  
Dubstep sound kind of passed me by because I couldn't hear a massive  
amount of originality in there. Don't get me wrong, I like some of it  
a lot but it got hyped up as 'the new sound' a few years ago. Kind of  
reminds me of getting into drum and bass when it started and thinking  
it was a totally original sound, nowadays I still love the early D&B  
but I realise how massively influenced it was by Detroit techno.

Still, it's nice to know that some of the local youth (I live in  
Croydon) are indoors making tracks instead of out muggin' old ladies ;)

E


On 10 Oct 2007, at 12:01, Robert Taylor wrote:

> Tony Thorpe's making dubstep now
>
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> Rob Taylor
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mann, Ravinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 October 2007 11:48
> To: Martin Dust
> Cc: 313 List
> Subject: RE: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology
>
> Haha big up all Granddads in the House . .
>
> Id be interested in any old timers take on Dubstep production, how far
> back would the influences go ? Would they include Detriot strings ?
> Would they include 80's northern bass  ? i.e. waiting for Pauls  
> material
> to drop, any clues Martin ?
>
> Rav
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 10 October 2007 11:22
> To: Mann, Ravinder
> Cc: 313 List
> Subject: Re: (313) Re: Dubstep Geneology
>
>
>
> On 10 Oct 2007, at 11:11, Mann, Ravinder wrote:
>
>> Seen lots of discussions about the Dubstep to UK garage/2 step
>> link. But
>> I always link Dubstep with Sheffields bleep'n'bass from the late 80's
>> and the 90's Berlin dub sound. But then again im 41 not 21 : )
>
> True enough Rav, but you'll get the thousand yard stare if you
> mention it, granddad :)
>
> The biggest influence of Dubstep is EL-B, he produced some of the
> darkest UK garage for a long time.
>
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