j&r makes you feel like a criminal for returning something that isn't
even opened!!!  (believe me it happened) - I only go there for things
I know that I really have to use and that I won't be returning... they
really do have one of the cheapest prices if you don't want to wait
for your things in the mail

i recs going to best buy (or any other store for that matter) and
getting them to match price.

amazon is ok for returns (as far as I have experienced)...

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Frank Glazer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> j&r down by city hall in new york will not allow earbud returns which
> is why i did not make a purchase when i went there today to buy two or
> three sets to test.
>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 6:07 PM, darnistle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Very simple: I took them back to the store.
>>
>> The first place didn't ask why I was returning them.  They simply issued the
>> refund.
>>
>> The second place asked and I told them I wasn't happy with the sound
>> quality.  They didn't ask any more questions after that.
>>
>> I got the third set through the mail, but I told that company the same
>> thing, namely that I was unhappy with the sound quality.  They didn't make
>> an issue out of it and said they'd refund the money once they received the
>> item in the mail.
>>
>> {}0+>|
>>
>>
>> Odeluga, Ken wrote:
>>>
>>> Cool. Glad you find ones that suit you - and thanks for the research, I
>>> will try to check out the SE100s as I'll be needing some ear phones
>>> myself soon I think.
>>>
>>> One thing puzzles me though: how did you mannage to return used in-ear
>>> ear phones?!?!? :)
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: darnistle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September
>>> 22, 2008 3:18 AM
>>> To: 313
>>> Subject: Re: (313) OT: earbud recommendations?
>>>
>>>
>>> Update to this week-long drama:
>>>
>>> The Shure E4c-N earphones arrived in the mail.  Though they are good
>>> earphones, they don't really hold a candle to the Shure SE100s.
>>>
>>> The Shure E4c-N has much more noticeable bass, but the mids and highs
>>> aren't as crisp and clear as the SE100s.  Feeling disappointed and thwarted,
>>> I decided to return the E4C-Ns and buy the SE100s once again.
>>>
>>> This time, I experimented with the different earpads for the SE100 and
>>> found the right one for my ear.  The increase in bass and overall richness
>>> was immediate.  The bass now is very clear and I'm very surprised that these
>>> earphones are able to produce some of the really low bass in certain dubstep
>>> or techno tracks.
>>>
>>> So my final assessment is that the Sennheiser CX300s and the Shure E4C-N
>>>
>>> are pretty similar in quality, though the CX300s were a little less
>>> expensive.  Either of them would be a very good replacement for the Sony
>>>
>>> MDR-EX71SL earphones.
>>>
>>> However, the SE100s win the prize for clarity and richness!!!  It is
>>> really worth paying the extra money for such a marked improvement in the
>>>
>>> sound quality!!  Making the effort to try the different earpads will pay
>>>
>>> off when you find the ones that fit your ears in just the right way.
>>>
>>>
>>> {}0+>|
>>>
>>>
>>> darnistle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Funny that this topic should come up at this time.  My favorite Sony
>>>> MDR-EX71SL earbuds  developed a short in the cord last week, so it was
>>>
>>>> time to buy another pair.  The last set lasted for more than two
>>>
>>> years,
>>>>
>>>> which is really good considering that I use them daily for hours at a
>>>> time and am not as careful with them as I should be.
>>>>
>>>> This time, I decided to try some other brands and took the plunge and
>>>> bought the Shure SE100s from a store in town.  At $100 it was
>>>
>>> expensive,
>>>>
>>>> but I was curious to see if there was any significant increase in
>>>
>>> sound
>>>>
>>>> quality.
>>>>
>>>> The clarity and imaging were astounding!!  Truly!!  Listening to tracks
>>>> I was well familiar with was like hearing them anew:  all sorts of
>>>> nuances I'd never heard before were suddenly very clear.  The
>>>
>>> earphones
>>>>
>>>> also did an excellent job of blocking outside sounds.  I felt like I
>>>
>>> was
>>>>
>>>> in a wonderfully exquisite aural cocoon.
>>>>
>>>> My only complaint about them was the lack of bass, even though I tried
>>>> pushing the earpads further in my ear.  It helped somewhat, but not as
>>>
>>>> much as I would have expected.  I thought to put on one of the
>>>
>>> alternate
>>>>
>>>> earpads to ensure a better fit, but had trouble getting the pads off.
>>>
>>> I
>>>>
>>>> didn't want to risk ripping the rubber cover since I wasn't sure if
>>>
>>> I'd
>>>>
>>>> keep the earphones.  I never got to experiment to see if using
>>>
>>> different
>>>>
>>>> earpads would help with the bass problem.
>>>>
>>>> I convinced myself to return the earphones to the store because of the
>>>> bass issue, but the sheer clarity of the sound haunted me for days
>>>
>>> after.
>>>>
>>>> Instead, I bought a pair of Sennheiser CX300s, which sounded just as
>>>> good as my old Sonys.  They aren't really sound isolating, but they
>>>> deliver a good, even sound.  No complaints at all.  Problem is that those
>>>> Shure earphones were SO good,  I couldn't deny the massive difference in
>>>> quality.
>>>>
>>>> Now that my ears got a taste of the really good stuff, they weren't
>>>> havin' the Sennheisers, so I went online this evening and finally decided
>>>> to buy the Shure E4c-N earphones today on Amazon.com ($89!!!),
>>>
>>>> since they got even better reviews than the ones I tried a few days
>>>
>>> ago!
>>>>
>>>> Assuming the E4C-N is as good as I hope it'll be, I'll probably keep the
>>>> Sennheiser earphones as a standby in case something happens to the
>>>
>>> Shures.
>>>>
>>>> {}0+>|
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frank Glazer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in the market for some new earbuds for ipod listening on the train.
>>>>>  It's been about a year since this subject was last mentioned on list, I
>>>>> checked the archives but thought an update wouldn't hurt. I want something
>>>>> very loud with strong, clear defined bass response. They need to block a
>>>>> significant amount of outside sound so that i don't have to hear chatter 
>>>>> or
>>>>> rail noise.  So what's everybody using for earbuds these days?  I'm
>>>>> considering one of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Shure-E2c-n-Sound-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B000E5
>>>>> GKW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1221435680&sr=1-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Vibe-Earbuds-Gunmetal-Black/dp/B000V5L5M
>>>>> G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1221436093&sr=1-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ER4S-Reference-Earphones/dp/B
>>>>> 000300Y9O/ref=wl_it_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3TBZ27N3IMN3O&colid=2ZPLTMQTI9
>>>>> YUX
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-Portable-Earphones-Black/dp/B
>>>>> 000XPG2QI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1221434596&sr=8-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-IE-10-Professional-Reference-Monitors/d
>>>>> p/B000JNNNBQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=musical-instruments&qid=1221436137&
>>>>> sr=1-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Philips-SHE9850-Headphones-Advanced-Acoustics/d
>>>>> p/B00176TEGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1221435109&sr=1-1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> or your recommendation under $175
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> peace,
>
> frank
>
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