Hi

I will also help from QA team(Test and automation ) , i started learning
"rust" 6 month ago (not regular ). I know 2% (may be).


Regards
Anuj Borah

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 8:20 PM Simon Pichugin <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 01:21:28PM +1000, William Brown wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So it's been a while since I pushed this, but again, I think I want to
> bring this up. I'd like to write the new logging backend in Rust.
> >
> > I'll start with a summary:
> >
> > Pros:
> > * Faster development time due to stricter code correctness guarantees
> > * Modern and safe language to lower number of bugs in implementation
> > * Much better libraries for interacting with things like json and thread
> safety
> >
> > Cons:
> > * Another language in the codebase ...
> > * We need to learn it to work on it
> > * Vendors need to be ready to build with the toolchain
> >
> > I've talked through some of these thoughts with Mark a bit, and I really
> think it's time we did this - or gave up on pursuing it. I have been
> running the rust enabled version of ds for a few years now with no issues.
> SUSE is also in a position where they are able to and ready to build DS
> with Rust (I'm assuming RH could easily also be brought to parity here).
> >
> > So the main barrier becomes us: the most common argument is we don't
> know enough or have enough experience. However I think this argument is
> flawed, in the fact that there are many parts of the code where we already
> only have 1 or 2 experts in that area - often when we look into a bug or a
> feature, we always have to learn new things, we have to read the code,
> understand even the unique styles of how that was written for the time, and
> then do work. This would be no different. I think we are all capable of
> learning and working with these tools.
> >
> > By this point, Gnome is looking into Rust as a mainline part of the
> desktop, Samba has started to look into it, Firefox is already shipping
> Rust components. I think that Rust is here to stay, and is not some passing
> trend.
> >
> >
> > So what do we think? I think if there are no major objections I would
> like to do this in Rust. I'll also commit to providing C-Rust FFI
> documentation for the team, resources to help understand what's going on,
> and like always, I will be sure to comment all my code thoroughly as part
> of this improvement.
> Hi William,
> I am more than interested!
>
> I'd like to learn it one day anyway.
> So if there will be no objections and we'll go forward now,
> I think, it is important to agree on some points of decreasing a bus
> factor:
>
> - As you said, it should have very detailed comments on all of the
>   language features and technics you'll use.
> - I think it will be nice to have an additional documentation which will
>   describe the basic setup for the development you use. All the toold you
>   need to develop, compile, test and debug.
> - Also, some nice links for the basic tutorials on Rust types, concepts,
> etc.
> - I think, we should have detailed unit tests. It will help to
>   understand the code better and we will have less bugs (hopefully).
>
> And the final and big point I wanted to mention:
>
> - We should be prepared for a slow review process because we have quite
> limited
>   recources in the team and a lot of work should be done (WebUI still has
> to be refactored to React,
>   and it is only a small piece of the workload).
>   Also, I think, it makes sense to have the smallest Rust PRs that can be
> put together as an independent unit.
>
> But everything is just my opinion and I don't know what others think and
> if everyone is prepared to join it. I am feeling excited though :)
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>
> P.S. check the contribution guide please. Espesially a part about
> 'rebase-force-push'. I think it is nice not to force push during
> the review process (and rebase-squash only after you got an ACK).
>
>
> >
> >
> > —
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > William Brown
> >
> > Senior Software Engineer, 389 Directory Server
> > SUSE Labs
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