No problem Doug. If it changes let me know.

You probably want to visit the Foundation page and upgrade your component. 
There’s also a support list over there as well.

> On Aug 30, 2016, at 5:03 PM, Doug Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the responses so far! I'm so glad I still have help here! (I'm
> gonna need it.) How wonderful to hear from some of you old-timers -- all
> the way back to the CompuServe days (Douglas von Roeder and Lee Hinde for
> sure, and Chip Scheide might have been around in those days. My memory
> fails me.) I can hear that blasted 9600 baud modem screeching, to this day!
> :-))  <--- Yes, I've adopted a double chin, now. Gotta get rid of that
> stupid thing. :-((
> 
> After a little plowing through 4D Insider, I've found a few plugins that I
> wasn't even using, but never bothered to clean out. I've already
> removed Expat4D, 4D Open and PrintList Pro. I had already removed the MD5
> plugin I mentioned earlier, but I had forgotten I had. (I was working off
> an old list of plugins.)
> 
> Before I waste more of your time, I'm going to need to dive into the
> upgrade manuals and do some further preening of my code, to make sure that
> I'm only porting the code that I'm actually using. 4D Insider will help me
> locate stuff I'm not using. By the way, is there a replacement for that
> functionality now that there is no more 4D Insider?
> 
> I am glad to hear that it's actually possible to go straight to v15. I'm
> going to have lots of questions along the way. I hope you guys don't get
> tired of me.
> 
> Guy Algot, I appreciate the offer of help, but we're pretty low budget in
> this state office. Just upgrading the software is sending shock waves. I
> appreciate the offer, though.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Chip Scheide <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> as for BASH:
>> list which methods in it you are using.  THere are likely bits of code
>> out there to replace the functionality (if 4D has not already done that)
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 16:17:26 -0500, Doug Hall wrote:
>>> For various reasons, we have put off upgrading 4D. We originally intended
>>> to just move off of 4D all at once, but that turned out to be impossible.
>>> I've added onto our existing structure in spurts, but for the most part,
>>> I've been out of active 4D development for almost a decade, now.So, now I
>>> begin the journey of a million miles, with a single step. The first is
>>> advise from you guys. Should I shoot for an interim version, say v13, or
>> is
>>> it possible (practical) to go all the way from 2004 to v15?
>>> 
>>> I know that the Bash component we're using has not been supported for
>>> years. Has anyone reverse engineered the methods in this component? If
>> so,
>>> please email me privately.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here's what we're currently using in 4D 2004:
>>> 
>>> Foundation (v3.7.2?)
>>> 
>>> Components:
>>> Bash Component: I've heard there is no way to upgrade. Please advise.
>>> Rollover (Used by ToolBar) No longer available.
>>> 
>>> Plugins:
>>> AreaList Pro 7.9
>>> Active4D
>>> MD5 Plugin
>>> PDF Plugin
>>> PostgreSQL Plugin
>>> 


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