any ideas as to why this command is returning all 0's ?

I am in a call chain:
New process
 Opened window
  entry form (calendar)
   Form method
    Project method for form (on outside call)
     redraw calendar
      place boxes, day numbers etc *
       Place appointments/events *
        actually move text objects for appts/events **

* - In debugger (and in execution of code) : 
OBJECT GET 
COORDINATES(*;$"Actual_Object_Name";$Box_Left;$Box_Top;$Box_Right;$Box_Bottom)
all of these variables   $Box_Top;$Box_Right;$Box_Bottom  > 0

** - In debugger (and in execution of code) :
OBJECT GET 
COORDINATES(*;$"Actual_Object_Name";$Box_Left;$Box_Top;$Box_Right;$Box_Bottom)
all of these variables   $Box_Top;$Box_Right;$Box_Bottom  **Equal** 0 
(zero)

I do not understand how this is!
Same form, same window, same process, same call chain, just one step 
deeper
The object exists! It was moved into its location in the step (above 
call chain) 'place boxes, day numbers etc'.  I can see it being put 
into place, while debugging!!

thanks
Chip
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