Peter

That demo is great for those who are familiar with 4D. The one aspect that
I struggle with is outputting a modern UI. And for that matter I don't see
many examples that demonstrate this either. In 4D this was just a matter of
"drag and drop", add the colours, formats,  handle the events and you are
done. For the web you need to understand frameworks, HTML, Typescript/
Javascript, Angular, Wakanda whatever.. I am sure a lot of lazy 4D
developers like me are facing similar challenges. A single developer can
develop a full blown VMA on his/ her own. I am not sure this is even
possible with any of the current web technologies. My preference has always
been to start with a bootstrap template so you have the basic menu,
buttons, navigation pane, search, login, grids and other objects ready for
you to start coding.

I will be sold on any 4D based plugin or component that can demonstrate
this.



On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 8:14 AM, Peter Jakobsson <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello ernie
>
> > But, I have tried four time to 'get a grip' on Active4D, I slam into
> text (manuals)  that makes no cense to me and does not empower me to
> continue to want to 'learn' this fantastic product
>
> Indeed, I feel your pain. Some of the documentation and material focuses
> more on the powerful, fancy stuff that Active4D can do rather than the
> simple.
>
> For that reason I’ve created a small demo for you in case you find it more
> accessible. In the time since you made that post I’ve both cooked my
> daughter’s dinner and created this 1-page site containing active content
> generated in pure 4D script written directly into the web page. The beauty
> of this approach is that it levers what you already know and doesn’t
> require acquiring a whole new active script skill set. (Clearly for some
> stuff you always do such as Javascript etc).
>
> The demo page demonstrates queries, writing data to a table, reading data
> from the table and outputing to html as well as calling into native 4D
> methods and commands from the web page.
>
> What I did:
>
> 1. Downloaded the Active4D shell from here: http://www.aparajitaworld.com/
> downloads/
> 2. Created a table and 1 method (the “getRoman” function)
> 3. Opened TextMate and wrote the code you see below
> 4. Saved the page in the “web” folder next to my structure (“mypage.a4d”)
>
> Here’s the finished page output:
> https://s29.postimg.org/892ryx4g7/page.png
>
> Here’s active web page code containing 4D code written into the html
> between percent tags:
> https://s24.postimg.org/xwguynfrp/code1.png
> https://s27.postimg.org/hjf1128wz/code2.png
>
> Here’s the structure:
> https://s29.postimg.org/67cmogc47/structure.png
>
> Here’s Active4D helping me debug the finished result:
> https://s30.postimg.org/m6sps0p6p/debug.png
>
> I’ve sent you the demo by PM in case you’d like to explore it. ill be
> happy to do so for anyone else that wants it.
>
> Hope that helps although I realise you may already have got past this
> stage but many people don’t even get that far as they are under the
> impression that the learning curve is steeper.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Peter
>
>
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