i'm confused. he's getting the right plain text. isn't he saying that if there were an emphatic style that displayed . as ! then the plain text ought to change to ! too ?
> On Aug 1, 2017, at 1:05 PM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Keith, > If you used ST Get Text instead of Get Plain Text, then you maybe could > strip out the style tags and end up with the correct plain text? (I haven't > tried this). > > Pat > > On 1 August 2017 at 15:08, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well, It looks like this has been declared standard behavior. I can't say >> it's unexpected to see the words "style" and "cosmetic" in the same >> vicinity. I question their use with a text "transformation". This is more >> about user expectations. "a" and "A" have always been understood, by >> technical and non-technical users, to be two different character values. >> >> Transforming a character from one case to another changes the value of the >> character in Text Edit, Word, other 4D commands, and so on. In Write Pro >> there is no way to tell which character is in the text. Suppose a client >> wants their customer name list to be Capitalized. Write Pro would be a >> great tool for that, except the final product would be wrong. They are >> unable to depend on the data. >> >> All users of any software that I have met, have an expectation that the >> case of a character is a "real" thing, and the attributes like bold, etc... >> are the "cosmetic" part. It seems unfortunate to introduce this kind of >> ambiguity. >> >> Keith - CDI >> >>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 4:10 AM, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Keith, >>> I suppose it could be argued that ST Get Plain Text gets plain (i.e., >>> unstyled) text ... text in its raw form ... but I agree with your point >> of >>> view. >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> On 31 July 2017 at 15:09, Keith Culotta via 4D_Tech < >> [email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is something to be aware of if you plan to use Write Pro text >> outside >>>> of Write Pro areas. >>>> >>>> A bug report has been submitted, but for now Write Pro Style >>>> Transformations are cosmetic only. >>>> >>>> For instance, if you apply the Write Pro transformation >>>> Uppercase to "This is a Test", >>>> you will see "THIS IS A TEST" in the document. >>>> >>>> If you copy the text, or retrieve it using "ST Get plain text", you end >> up >>>> with "This is a Test". >>>> >>>> Keith - CDI >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >>>> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >>>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >>>> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >>>> Unsub: mailto:[email protected] >>>> ********************************************************************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ************************************************* >>> CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing >>> tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 >>> w: http://www.catbase.com >>> skype: pat.bensky >>> ************************************************* >>> ********************************************************************** >>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >>> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >>> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >>> Unsub: mailto:[email protected] >>> ********************************************************************** >> >> ********************************************************************** >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) >> FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html >> Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech >> Unsub: mailto:[email protected] >> ********************************************************************** >> > > > > -- > ************************************************* > CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing > tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 > w: http://www.catbase.com > skype: pat.bensky > ************************************************* > ********************************************************************** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > ********************************************************************** ********************************************************************** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:[email protected] **********************************************************************
