On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 3:21 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech < [email protected]> wrote:
> On Oct 27, 2017, at 8:11 PM, David Adams wrote: > > Tim, I wasn't really making a broad comment of any kind about 4D or criticizing - just citing a bit of the history I was there for. The original programmer was Phil Weiss, nice guy. But I do remember how shocked 4D was when they got the code and discovered that it was not re-entrant. Then there was ITK, which was really kind of great (again, a single programmer - Christian Quest?- the same person that did some of the network layer pieces back when TCP/IP was just an option). But that disappeared...or sort of withered on the vine. And then NTK, which I like a lot. All three of these tools were written by individual programmers and they didn't spend years on them. Rob could say something about how long the 4DIC-like features of NTK took to write, not that I expect him to. (No reason he should.). And he's got a cross-platform C++ framework as well, I believe. Paul Carnine wrote a multi-platform framewor too - but with support for even more platforms - for his award-winning video software. (That's where he went, if I remember correctly, it had nothing to do with 4D.) If 4D comes up with a native replacement 4DIC, great! For example, I'm really happy that they've got HTTP Get and HTTP Request in the language, very helpful. But waiting for a future feature that hasn't been announced, shown, put into a beta or released? Something that might or might not happen, and who knows when? And who knows how it will work or what it will do when/if it arrives? That's not something useful to me today or something that I can plan around. If I need a feature, I already need it. So I have to work with what we've got. Once there's a native and non-blocking way to do email in 4D, great! If they've got it and I need it, I'll check it out. Until then, there are stacks of could-based mail services with nice APIs. That's where I'd be looking, particularly since HTTP Get and HTTP Request seem to do a decent job with no real downsides. ********************************************************************** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) FAQ: http://lists.4d.com/faqnug.html Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: http://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:[email protected] **********************************************************************
