Hi Pat,

Maybe you are right, thanks for the suggestion, but I "don't want to even go 
there".
I could also connect a beamer to my laptop and beam write Pro on the wall in 
500% (Dutch humor)

Gr,

Piotr

> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Pat Bensky <pben...@gmail.com>
> Verzonden: dinsdag 26 juni 2018 12:33
> Aan: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> Onderwerp: Re: Any way to detect change to 4D Write Pro orientation.
> 
> Piotr,
> Perhaps you will need to:
> - Make it enterable
> - Give it the focus
> - Set the zoom
> - Make it non-enterable
> - Make the other object the focus
> 
> A bit clunky ... but should work OK?
> 
> Pat
> 
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 07:54, Piotr Chabot Stadhouders via 4D_Tech <
> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi John,
> >
> > I am already using the 4D Write Pro toolbar, and I like it! It also
> > has most things the user needs, and I am also able to modify and
> > extend it. I can't wait for a new version to show up.
> > However, as said, I am talking about programmatically setting
> > defaults, because I don't think users like it when I say they have to
> > click 5 buttons every time to create the view they want For some
> > defaults we have to use INVOKE ACTION and even more the Pro area has
> > got to have the focus
> >
> > Besides the fact that I find this not intuitive there is one thing I
> > don't
> > understand:
> > As I said (can someone confirm this?) the area has to have the focus
> > to use INVOKE ACTION for setting the zoom for example.
> > But what if I want to show an area that is not enterable / disabled
> > and I want to set the zoom to 150%? Is this even possible?
> >
> > Gr,
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: JOHN BAUGHMAN <john...@hawaii.rr.com>
> > > Verzonden: donderdag 21 juni 2018 10:04
> > > Aan: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> > > Onderwerp: Re: Any way to detect change to 4D Write Pro orientation.
> > >
> > > Hi Piotr,
> > >
> > >       I highly recommend the 4D Write-Like toolbar…
> > >
> > >
> > >       http://download.4d.com/4DBlog/Tips/4DWriteLikeToolbarDemo.zip
> > >
> > >       It has nearly everything needed including zoom and view mode
> > > that
> > you
> > > mentioned. If for nothing else it’s  great to use as an example of
> > > how to manage most of the 4D Write Pro attributes. I have adopted it
> > > for all my
> > 4D
> > > Write Pro areas with only a couple of additions. I added “4D
> > Expressions” to the
> > > Insert menu and added the orientation icons I mentioned earlier.
> > > Both
> > were
> > > very easy to add using the tool bar's example.
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > John Baughman
> > > 1331 Auwaiku Street
> > > Kailua, Hawaii  96734
> > > (808) 262-0328
> > > john...@hawaii.rr.com
> > >
> > > > On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Piotr Chabot Stadhouders via 4D_Tech
> > > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > I am on your side with this.
> > > > Especially the need to use INVOKE ACTION to set specific
> > > > attributes is
> > > something I don't understand.
> > > >
> > > > Our users want to be able to set some defaults for the Write Pro
> > > > area, for example the default zoom % and the default view mode Now
> > > > I have to
> > use
> > > for example INVOKE ACTION("pageMode?value=draft";WP_WriteProArea)
> > > and INVOKE ACTION("zoom?value=150%";WP_WriteProArea) to accomplish
> this.
> > > > Even further, the Write Pro area needs to have the focus or else
> > > > the invoke action command doesn't work
> > > >
> > > > I know there are some workarounds / hacks for this, but I don't
> > > > like
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > Gr,
> > > >
> > > > Piotr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Jun 10, 2018, at 10:18 AM, JOHN BAUGHMAN wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. Have 2 icons in my tool bar, like in the print dialog, for
> > Portrait and
> > > Landscape and be able to use them as one can from the contextual menu.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > There is a way to do set ordination programmatically...
> > > >
> > > > INVOKE ACTION("pageOrientation?value=landscape";WP_WriteProArea)
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone else find finding how to do something in 4D Write Pro
> > > > a
> > painful
> > > proposition. Everything is spread out...
> > > >
> > > > WP commands
> > > > ST Commands
> > > > OB Commands
> > > > Standard Actions/4D Write Pro Standard Actions/Invoke Action etc.,
> > > > etc...
> > > >
> > > > I would love a single place to go where I can find what is needed
> > without
> > > having to guess what section of the LRM to go to?
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > >
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