Hi Neal,
>We're planning to upgrade to v17 in Q1 this coming year. We're currently >running our 4DServer v16 r6 application on a Windows 2008r2 >server (DELL Server PER420 with Xeon CUP E5-2407 v2 @2.40Ghz 2.40 Ghz (2 >processors) with 32GB RAM, 64-bit). Our budget for the >coming year includes funds for a new server machine. I'm looking for hardware >recommendations based on our current users and setup. >We average about 45 concurrent users via 4D client/server and another 50 - 70 >web connections. You may not need any more hardware than you already have. Or you might! What I'm saying is that the only way to know if you are approaching (or already exceeding) the capability of your hardware is to measure performance. If you don't already have Thomas Schulmberger's Info Component installed, that would be a good place to start. You should be able to find it online, or contact 4D Tech Support. That will give you lots of key performance data which can be directly impacted by hardware. For example, it will tell you how often the 4D cache is being purged and how long it takes. Additionally, if you don't already have built-in application metrics, like how long it takes to do certain user tasks, that is something to start doing ASAP. Your users can tell you where the bottlenecks are, so those are things you need to collect data on. It will help you determine priorities. And if you can cut 10 seconds off a task done 100 times a day by 45 users that's a massive payback. How long does it take to run MSC on your current data file? Does it take so long that you have to interrupt business to do routine maintenance tasks like Compacting or Re-indexing? If new hardware allows you to reduce the maintenance burden, that alone could be a reason to upgrade. But you need to collect the data to know what to do. But if you have a budget and it needs to be spent, I'd look at your disk subsystems. If you aren't running solid state drives that would be a great investment. You'll see reports run in seconds instead of minutes. HTH, Tom Benedict This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. ********************************************************************** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:[email protected] **********************************************************************

