Hi  Neal,


>We're planning to upgrade to v17 in Q1 this coming year. We're currently 
>running our 4DServer v16 r6 application on a Windows 2008r2

>server (DELL Server PER420 with Xeon CUP E5-2407 v2 @2.40Ghz 2.40 Ghz (2 
>processors) with 32GB RAM, 64-bit). Our budget for the

>coming year includes funds for a new server machine. I'm looking for hardware 
>recommendations based on our current users and setup.

>We average about 45 concurrent users via 4D client/server and another 50 - 70 
>web connections.



You may not need any more hardware than you already have. Or you might! What 
I'm saying is that the only way to know if you are approaching (or already 
exceeding) the capability of your hardware is to measure performance. If you 
don't already have Thomas Schulmberger's Info Component installed, that would 
be a good place to start. You should be able to find it online, or contact 4D 
Tech Support. That will give you lots of key performance data which can be 
directly impacted by hardware. For example, it will tell you how often the 4D 
cache is being purged and how long it takes. Additionally, if you don't already 
have built-in application metrics, like how long it takes to do certain user 
tasks, that is something to start doing ASAP. Your users can tell you where the 
bottlenecks are, so those are things you need to collect data on. It will help 
you determine priorities. And if you can cut 10 seconds off a task done 100 
times a day by 45 users that's a massive payback.



How long does it take to run MSC on your current data file? Does it take so 
long that you have to interrupt business to do routine maintenance tasks like 
Compacting or Re-indexing? If new hardware allows you to reduce the maintenance 
burden, that alone could be a reason to upgrade. But you need to collect the 
data to know what to do.



But if you have a budget and it needs to be spent, I'd look at your disk 
subsystems. If you aren't running solid state drives that would be a great 
investment. You'll see reports run in seconds instead of minutes.



HTH,



Tom Benedict

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