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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Printing Listbox multiple pages (resolved) (John J Foster)
2. Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
(Tim Nevels)
3. Re: barcode (Bernd Fröhlich)
4. Re: Gmail, LSA, and OAuth (Chuck Miller)
5. Re: Gmail, LSA, and OAuth (Tom Benedict)
6. Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
(Keith Goebel)
7. Re: gitignore for projects (John DeSoi)
8. Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
(Herr Alexander Heintz)
9. Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
(Paul Dennis)
10. Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
(Milan Adamov)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 09:44:21 -0700
From: John J Foster <trueg...@isomedia.com>
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Subject: Re: Printing Listbox multiple pages (resolved)
Message-ID: <3e46f8d3-7bc0-432b-9909-d71c54422...@isomedia.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi All,
Never mind - unless you found something a bit easier…
I found an older JPR example (I think) and it was really easy!
Just change the code to something like this:
C_BOOLEAN(vOver;$ref)
PRINT SETTINGS
If (ok=1)
SET PRINT PREVIEW(True)
OPEN PRINTING JOB
FORM LOAD("Timescan_print")
vOver:=False // Flag for cancel printing
Repeat
$ref:=Print object(*;"tscanChartInfo")
vOver:=Print object(*;"lb_Timeline")
If (Not(vOver))
PAGE BREAK
End if
Until (vOver)
CLOSE PRINTING JOB
End if
For all those who might need it in the future.
John…
Hi All,
I have an array based listbox of results that needs to be printed. I am
starting with simple code:
PRINT SETTINGS
If (ok=1)
SET PRINT PREVIEW(True)
OPEN PRINTING JOB
FORM LOAD("Timescan_print")
$ref:=Print object(*;"tscanChartInfo")
$ref:=Print object(*;"lb_Timeline")
CLOSE PRINTING JOB
End if
But this only prints a single page (rows printed based upon listbox height).
Obviously I haven’t designed it to calculate and print multiple pages yet and
want to be efficient as I proceed.
Before I stumble my way through this I have reviewed past NUG threads and
looked at Miyako’s and Keith’s examples But either, in Miyako’s case, it
creates random values on the fly but does create multiple pages, for Keith’s
example which stops at the size of the listbox.
So do I need to create a series of form pages: Header, row lines, footer, etc.
and then print object and calculate or….
Is there an easier way to manage array based listbox printing over many pages?
Does anyone have any sample code of printing multi-page array based list boxes?
Thanks,
John…
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 14:44:11 -0500
From: Tim Nevels <timnev...@mac.com>
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Subject: Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
Message-ID: <cfb4ba68-49a9-415a-abe1-41b3de79c...@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Alexander Heintz wrote:
OsX is as much a UNIX flavor as we are basically primates.
BSD split in 75 from UNIX and NEXTSTEP in 86 from BSD.
don't know why, but AFAIK the MacOS is not suited for multiple concurrent user
sessions.
Good that you prefaced your statement with “AFAIK”, because you don’t know.
macOS has supported multiple simultaneous users on the same machine with each
having their own U macOS Lion 10.7. So it’s been around for a long time. Very
easy to use from one Mac to another using built in Screen Sharing application.
You can also do it from a Windows machine but you need to get the right VNC app
that supports the new protocol and user login. VNC Viewer works.
https://www.realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/
Apple put a limit of 5 simultaneously connected users with macOS 10.13 High
Sierra. Before that you could do many more if you had a powerful Mac — same as
if you were doing this on Windows with Terminal Server.
Here’s a link with a lot of details, for those that want to know more:
https://superuser.com/questions/125636/can-a-mac-be-used-by-multiple-users-at-same-time
Also, here are a couple of screenshots I took from my Mac Mini server running 10.13
with 2 Screen Sharing sessions active at the same time. Two users:
“Administrator" and “Screen User” are configured. Just to show an example of
how it works.
When you connect to a Mac with Screen Sharing you have to specify a user name
and password. You can get the dialog box below if you are trying to connect
with an account that it already knows. Just select another account to log in
again with a new Screen Sharing connection:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0x3gvnasf57otz3/ScreenShare%20Connect%20Confirm.PNG
Then you get the macOS login screen. Select the user account and enter the
password. (You can save all this to the Keychain so you don’t have to double
login every time.)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tpsjwvzb7t96ql2/LoginScreen.PNG
Here are the 2 sessions running side-by-side on my iMac Pro. Notice it is the
same Mac Mini computer, but with two users. Each has it’s own Desktop, Dock and
all that stuff.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/9x3xm5zpt1lgu2x/TwoUserScreenShare.PNG
It is super easy to set this up and use. A lot easier than doing the same thing
on Windows with Terminal Server and using RDC. But then you would expect that
since it is a Macintosh… right? 😀
Tim
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 20:58:43 +0100
From: Bernd Fröhlich <b...@eaglesoft.de>
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Subject: Re: barcode
Message-ID: <202003192058430...@bremac.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Chuck Miller:
The only problem is creation of of bar code. I think hmbar code does all types
(128 etc) which are harder to do programmatically. When I tried, I was able to
get 128 working on a Mac or a PC but not both. The coding seems to have been
slightly different
If you need a "Code 39" barcode then you can use the following method.
I adapted it out of a component by Thomas Maul and made it standalone.
It returns a picure that you can place on a form to print.
C_TEXT($1;$tCode)
C_LONGINT($2;$lScale)
C_PICTURE($0)
C_TEXT($tPattern;$t;$tSVG;$tLine;$tPoints;$tRef)
C_LONGINT($i;$x;$x2;$y;$y2;$lCount;$lHeight;$lWidth;$lBarwidth;$lScale)
$tCode:=$1
If (Count parameters>1)
$lScale:=$2
Else
$lScale:=1
End if
If ($Tcode#"*@")
$tcode:="*"+$tcode
End if
If ($tcode#"@*")
$tcode:=$tcode+"*"
End if
If (Length($tcode)>32)
g4D_AlertErr ("Code zu lang!")
End if
$tPattern:=""
For ($i;1;Length($tCode))
$t:=$tCode[[$i]]
Case of
: ($t="*")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001011011010"
: ($t="0")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010011011010"
: ($t="1")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101001010110"
: ($t="2")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011001010110"
: ($t="3")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101100101010"
: ($t="4")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010011010110"
: ($t="5")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101001101010"
: ($t="6")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011001101010"
: ($t="7")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010010110110"
: ($t="8")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101001011010"
: ($t="9")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011001011010"
: ($t="A")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101010010110"
: ($t="B")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011010010110"
: ($t="C")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101101001010"
: ($t="D")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010110010110"
: ($t="E")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101011001010"
: ($t="F")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011011001010"
: ($t="G")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010100110110"
: ($t="H")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101010011010"
: ($t="I")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011010011010"
: ($t="J")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010110011010"
: ($t="K")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101010100110"
: ($t="L")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011010100110"
: ($t="M")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101101010010"
: ($t="N")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010110100110"
: ($t="O")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101011010010"
: ($t="P")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011011010010"
: ($t="Q")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010101100110"
: ($t="R")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1101010110010"
: ($t="S")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1011010110010"
: ($t="T")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010110110010"
: ($t="U")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1100101010110"
: ($t="V")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001101010110"
: ($t="W")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1100110101010"
: ($t="X")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001011010110"
: ($t="Y")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1100101101010"
: ($t="Z")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001101101010"
: ($t="-")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001010110110"
: ($t=".")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1100101011010"
: ($t=" ")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001101011010"
: ($t="$")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001001001010"
: ($t="/")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001001010010"
: ($t="+")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1001010010010"
: ($t="%")
$tPattern:=$tPattern+"1010010010010"
Else
g4D_AlertErrCaseOf (Current method name)
End case
End for
$tSVG:=DOM Create XML Ref("svg";"http://www.w3.org/2000/svg";)
$lHeight:%
$lWidth:=1*$lScale
$x:=1
$y:=1
$i:=1
$tpattern:=$tpattern+"X" // end of code, to make looping easier
While ($i<Length($tPattern))
$lCount:=0
$tLine:=$tPattern[[$i]]
// check if similar are following
While ($tline=$tpattern[[$i+1]]) // we cannot go longer than the string, thanks
to "X"
$lcount:=$lcount+1
$i:=$i+1
End while
If ($tLine="1")
$y2:=$y+$lHeight
$lBarwidth:=($lCount+1)*$lWidth
$x2:=$x+$lBarwidth
$tPoints:=String($x)+","+String($y)+" "+String($x)+","+String($y2)+"
"+String($x2)+","+String($y2)+" "+String($x2)+","+String($y)
$tRef:=DOM Create XML
element($tsvg;"polygon";"style";"fill:black";"points";$tPoints)
Else //$tLine=0 // White, don't draw
$x2:=$x+($lcount*$lWidth)+$lWidth
End if
$x:=$x2
$i:=$i+1
End while
SVG EXPORT TO PICTURE($tSVG;$0;Copy XML data source)
DOM CLOSE XML($tSVG)
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:50:47 -0400
From: Chuck Miller <cjmil...@informed-solutions.com>
To: 4DTechList Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: Gmail, LSA, and OAuth
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
what relay would you propose.
Regards
Chuck
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On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Mike Kerner via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:
or you can do this a different way - using a mail relay. that way your 4d
app doesn't have to be changed. the relay accepts your smtp and then
relays the message to google.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:57:52 -0700
From: Tom Benedict <benedic...@comcast.net>
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: Gmail, LSA, and OAuth
Message-ID: <c16fdd1d-e590-46aa-a294-b4ad71280...@comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I support a 4D app which currently uses Twilio sendgrid.net send all outbound
email. While our email volume is modest Iaven’t run into any issues with it.
Seems stable.
Tom Benedict
On Mar 19, 2020, at 13:50, Chuck Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:
what relay would you propose.
Regards
Chuck
On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Mike Kerner via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:
or you can do this a different way - using a mail relay. that way your 4d
app doesn't have to be changed. the relay accepts your smtp and then
relays the message to google.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:53:05 +1300
From: Keith Goebel <keit...@orcon.net.nz>
To: 4D Tech Mailing List Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
Message-ID: <92ed234d-1039-4c1b-893a-6f0b43ef6...@orcon.net.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
When I need to work from home, I connect my iMac to a PC at work using
Splashtop.
It's just like sitting at the desk at work and it works great!
HTH, Keith
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 18:39:54 -0400
From: John DeSoi <de...@pgedit.com>
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: gitignore for projects
Message-ID: <699bb561-e626-4260-9888-3745e52bf...@pgedit.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Yes, it shows differences in whitespace near comments in the .4DCatalog file.
John DeSoi, Ph.D.
On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Mike Kerner via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
wrote:
did you diff the versions to see what changed in the .4dcatalog file?
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:14:51 +0100
From: Herr Alexander Heintz <listrea...@heintz.net>
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
Message-ID: <0d891ffa-41c1-4a3a-8bd6-0c30c8262...@heintz.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Thanks Tim,
live and learn…
Will look into this over the weekend.
Cheers
Stay safe
Alex
Am 19.03.2020 um 20:44 schrieb Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>:
On Mar 19, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Alexander Heintz wrote:
OsX is as much a UNIX flavor as we are basically primates.
BSD split in 75 from UNIX and NEXTSTEP in 86 from BSD.
don't know why, but AFAIK the MacOS is not suited for multiple concurrent user
sessions.
Good that you prefaced your statement with “AFAIK”, because you don’t know.
macOS has supported multiple simultaneous users on the same machine with each
having their own U macOS Lion 10.7. So it’s been around for a long time. Very
easy to use from one Mac to another using built in Screen Sharing application.
You can also do it from a Windows machine but you need to get the right VNC app
that supports the new protocol and user login. VNC Viewer works.
https://www.realvnc.com/en/connect/download/viewer/
Apple put a limit of 5 simultaneously connected users with macOS 10.13 High
Sierra. Before that you could do many more if you had a powerful Mac — same as
if you were doing this on Windows with Terminal Server.
Here’s a link with a lot of details, for those that want to know more:
https://superuser.com/questions/125636/can-a-mac-be-used-by-multiple-users-at-same-time
Also, here are a couple of screenshots I took from my Mac Mini server running 10.13
with 2 Screen Sharing sessions active at the same time. Two users:
“Administrator" and “Screen User” are configured. Just to show an example of
how it works.
When you connect to a Mac with Screen Sharing you have to specify a user name
and password. You can get the dialog box below if you are trying to connect
with an account that it already knows. Just select another account to log in
again with a new Screen Sharing connection:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0x3gvnasf57otz3/ScreenShare%20Connect%20Confirm.PNG
Then you get the macOS login screen. Select the user account and enter the
password. (You can save all this to the Keychain so you don’t have to double
login every time.)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tpsjwvzb7t96ql2/LoginScreen.PNG
Here are the 2 sessions running side-by-side on my iMac Pro. Notice it is the
same Mac Mini computer, but with two users. Each has it’s own Desktop, Dock and
all that stuff.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/9x3xm5zpt1lgu2x/TwoUserScreenShare.PNG
It is super easy to set this up and use. A lot easier than doing the same thing
on Windows with Terminal Server and using RDC. But then you would expect that
since it is a Macintosh… right? 😀
Tim
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785-749-3444
timnev...@mac.com
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 02:32:39 -0700 (MST)
From: Paul Dennis <i...@completepicture.co.uk>
To: 4d_tech@lists.4d.com
Subject: Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
Message-ID: <1584696759910-0.p...@n5.nabble.com>
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Install the server as administrator then install the client on the server
machine but login as user using the user profile of each user. Make sure you
have enabled remote desktop server And have setup access file in the
firewall. Start the 4D client and connect to the server whilst logged in as
that user. This is all on the same server instance in the cloud.
The user then connects via RDP logs in and a session is started on the
server and he can start his local version of 4D client and use as normal.
This is the process on Windows It's very straightforward.
I have also set up direct access from remote users to the server. Since
version 15 using 4D client over WAN works fine providing the network latency
is not too bad. The new network layer improves this quite a lot but you can
still use the legacy one.
Paul
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:23:05 +0100
From: Milan Adamov <mada...@mac.com>
To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
Subject: Re: Remote working with 4D networks - what are people using ?
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On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech
<4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
Complete lack of a remote terminal solution for Macs is the primary reason why
most businesses have switched to Windows in the last 8-10 years.
Not true, since Mac OS X Lion built in screen sharing can be used to do this.
No licenses required.
Milan
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