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1. 1. Re: PING of life... (Clive Wilson)
2. Re: PING of life... (Chuck Miller)
3. Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses (David Rose)
4. Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses (Douglas von Roeder)
5. Re: PING of life... (THOMAS BENEDICT)
6. Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses (Douglas von Roeder)
7. Re: PING of life... (Neil Dennis)
8. RE: PING of life... (lists)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 15:34:47 -0500
From: Clive Wilson <[email protected]>
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Subject: 1. Re: PING of life...
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Still here.
From Florida USA
Clive Wilson
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 16:38:15 -0500
From: Chuck Miller <[email protected]>
To: 4DTechList Tech <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PING of life...
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Just remember, we were all smart ass newbies at some point.
Sill here but mostly on discuss
Chuck
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On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:00 AM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yep
On Jan 13, 2021, at 4:32 AM, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <[email protected]>
wrote:
G’day,
Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent
discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum?
I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the
forum any more.
Question is, are there other oldies willing to participate WITHOUT feeding
anything into the forum(s) following the slogan “What happen in/on iNUG stays
in/on iNUG”?
Cheers
Jörg
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 15:39:52 -0600
From: "David Rose" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses
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Douglas,
Whether or not we restrict access to 4D Write via the method you suggested, the
first user who logs on after a reboot grabs the 4D Write license whether that
user actually uses 4D Write or not.
David
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:37:32 -0800
From: Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
David:
While it's true that 4D WP is not a plugin, access to 4D WP is controlled in
the same manner as the plugin — either on an individual user basis or by
creating a group and granting access to that group.
With that in mind, you might be able to either move the user into a group that has access
to 4D WP with the Change current user command or move them into the "4DWP"
group using Set user properties.
Douglas von Roeder
949-910-4084
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:30 AM David Rose via 4D_Tech <[email protected]>
wrote:
We have a 4D Server v17R6 database running in a Windows-only environment.
We have a single 4D Write Pro license. Only one out of our dozen or so
users uses 4D Write Pro. Now that 4D Write is no longer a plug-in, we
have a problem managing access to that license. When 4D Server is
launched, the first user to log in grabs the license. Is there any way to
prevent this?
David Rose
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:55:49 -0800
From: Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
Cc: David Rose <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses
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David:
If only user group "X" has access to a resource, it would seem to be a bug
if someone not in that group could access that resource.
Perhaps a call to 4D tech support could provide clarification.
--
Douglas von Roeder
949-910-4084
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:39 PM David Rose via 4D_Tech <[email protected]>
wrote:
Douglas,
Whether or not we restrict access to 4D Write via the method you
suggested, the first user who logs on after a reboot grabs the 4D Write
license whether that user actually uses 4D Write or not.
David
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:37:32 -0800
From: Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
David:
While it's true that 4D WP is not a plugin, access to 4D WP is
controlled in the same manner as the plugin — either on an individual user
basis or by creating a group and granting access to that group.
With that in mind, you might be able to either move the user into a
group that has access to 4D WP with the Change current user command or move
them into the "4DWP" group using Set user properties.
Douglas von Roeder
949-910-4084
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:30 AM David Rose via 4D_Tech <
[email protected]>
wrote:
We have a 4D Server v17R6 database running in a Windows-only environment.
We have a single 4D Write Pro license. Only one out of our dozen or so
users uses 4D Write Pro. Now that 4D Write is no longer a plug-in, we
have a problem managing access to that license. When 4D Server is
launched, the first user to log in grabs the license. Is there any way
to prevent this?
David Rose
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:12:35 -0800 (PST)
From: THOMAS BENEDICT <[email protected]>
To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PING of life...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Yeah, I still monitor this list, but there is very little activity. And if
there’s no activity, what’s the point?
I actually like the new discuss forum. In fact, I like it a lot. I like the
ability to post pictures and formatted code. I also like that there are lots of
engaged 4D developers, old and new, posting regularly there. But most
especially I like that lots of 4D Inc folks are there.
following the slogan “What happens in/on iNUG stays in/on iNUG”?
I must have missed an important episode here, because I don’t understand what
that statement means. Was there a controversy at some point? Was it recent? Or
years ago?
Tom Benedict
On Jan 13, 2021, at 04:32, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> wrote:
G’day,
Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent
discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum?
I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the
forum any more.
Question is, are there other oldies willing to participate WITHOUT feeding
anything into the forum(s) following the slogan “What happen in/on iNUG stays
in/on iNUG”?
Cheers
Jörg
On 01/13/2021 4:32 AM Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> wrote:
G’day,
Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent
discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum?
I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the
forum any more.
Question is, are there other oldies willing to participate WITHOUT feeding
anything into the forum(s) following the slogan “What happen in/on iNUG stays
in/on iNUG”?
Cheers
Jörg
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:16:30 -0800
From: Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
Cc: David Rose <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Managing 4D Write Pro licenses
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<CAPR+Oi_eNSmxvXzVnGeWs4MAj08uDDy=bdj0lbiwgtzxkky...@mail.gmail.com>
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To resolve any confusion, "resource" = a "thing" not a "Resource" as in the
Classic Mac OS. In this case, it's a license to use 4D WP.
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Douglas von Roeder
949-910-4084
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:55 PM Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
wrote:
David:
If only user group "X" has access to a resource, it would seem to be a bug
if someone not in that group could access that resource.
Perhaps a call to 4D tech support could provide clarification.
--
Douglas von Roeder
949-910-4084
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 1:39 PM David Rose via 4D_Tech <
[email protected]> wrote:
Douglas,
Whether or not we restrict access to 4D Write via the method you
suggested, the first user who logs on after a reboot grabs the 4D Write
license whether that user actually uses 4D Write or not.
David
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:37:32 -0800
From: Douglas von Roeder <[email protected]>
David:
While it's true that 4D WP is not a plugin, access to 4D WP is
controlled in the same manner as the plugin — either on an individual user
basis or by creating a group and granting access to that group.
With that in mind, you might be able to either move the user into a
group that has access to 4D WP with the Change current user command or move
them into the "4DWP" group using Set user properties.
Douglas von Roeder
949-910-4084
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:30 AM David Rose via 4D_Tech <
[email protected]>
wrote:
We have a 4D Server v17R6 database running in a Windows-only
environment.
We have a single 4D Write Pro license. Only one out of our dozen or so
users uses 4D Write Pro. Now that 4D Write is no longer a plug-in, we
have a problem managing access to that license. When 4D Server is
launched, the first user to log in grabs the license. Is there any way
to prevent this?
David Rose
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 15:24:08 -0700
From: Neil Dennis <[email protected]>
To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PING of life...
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I must have missed an important episode here, because I don’t understand what
that statement means. Was there a controversy at some point? Was it recent? Or
years ago?
There was some heated debate recently regarding html vs pdf documentation… I’m
assuming that is what is referred here.
Neil
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 23:24:25 +0000
From: lists <[email protected]>
To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: PING of life...
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I'm not on here, so I wouldn't know 😊, and Jörg, carful with labeling us
dinosaur/old timers, we are just well seasoned.....
Lahav
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From: 4D_Tech <[email protected]> On Behalf Of THOMAS BENEDICT via
4D_Tech
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:13 PM
To: 4D iNug Technical <[email protected]>
Cc: THOMAS BENEDICT <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PING of life...
Yeah, I still monitor this list, but there is very little activity. And if
there’s no activity, what’s the point?
I actually like the new discuss forum. In fact, I like it a lot. I like the
ability to post pictures and formatted code. I also like that there are lots of
engaged 4D developers, old and new, posting regularly there. But most
especially I like that lots of 4D Inc folks are there.
following the slogan “What happens in/on iNUG stays in/on iNUG”?
I must have missed an important episode here, because I don’t understand what
that statement means. Was there a controversy at some point? Was it recent? Or
years ago?
Tom Benedict
On Jan 13, 2021, at 04:32, Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> wrote:
G’day,
Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent
discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum?
I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the
forum any more.
Question is, are there other oldies willing to participate WITHOUT feeding
anything into the forum(s) following the slogan “What happen in/on iNUG stays
in/on iNUG”?
Cheers
Jörg
On 01/13/2021 4:32 AM Jörg Knebel via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> wrote:
G’day,
Are here still enough dinosaur/old timers present to have some decent
discussions without that white noise and smart-arse newbies in the forum?
I’m following the lead of my neighbour David Adams and don’t participate in the
forum any more.
Question is, are there other oldies willing to participate WITHOUT feeding
anything into the forum(s) following the slogan “What happen in/on iNUG stays
in/on iNUG”?
Cheers
Jörg
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