Hi Arthur :)

thank you for this replay.

> Agnula

I tried to take a look to the project side, but can't get connected.

> I think that 64Studio is a great distribution

It seems to be the best Linux default DAW and so it is more worse, that
it isn't stable with my hardware.

> I can't run it because it is based on etch and my hardware is too new.

I'm afraid that I'm in the same situation. My old hardware was to week
for Linux DAWs and my new hardware might be to new. There nearly seems
to be monthly an update for my BIOS, but without any comments about Linux.

> The people who write the software for logic and cubase have full-time
> jobs writing code all day that pay well.

That's true and also Gerhard Lengeling C-Lab and Logic is a genius, even
if Steinberg has the better products since the Atari ST. I learned a lot
about MIDI programming by hacking his C64 software. Not as a software
thief, just as someone who wanted to learn about it. I'm not familiar
with programming for Linux, resp. multi user, real multi task systems,
so I can't say much about Linux, but the example with the missing mixer,
that should have aux channels, shows that some things has to be over
thought. Having aux channels will reduce the number of effects, because
one effect can be used more filigree for different audio sources.

> in the case of Rosegarden and Zynaddsubfx) that I don't know if they
> will function as intended from one release to the next or from one
> distro to the next or with the next version of jack or whatever and
> this, of course, is quite frustrating.

If I will get a stable Linux DAW, I wouldn't change it any more, I just
would test new Linux DAWs as a second install.

> Perhaps you and I have just had bad luck or some of the software is
> buggy with our particular hardware or a certain feature only works
> when the moon is full.

I can't test this, because I transform into a mouse when the moon is full.

> Linux is developing so quickly that it has got to be quite a chore for
> all of the developers to keep up. This affects not only audio programs
> but all of linux.

Yes, it's interesting to see distros like Suse, they are less stable,
but came with lot's of new surprises.

> In my opinion microsoft operating systems just aren't very good. I
> haven't run a mac since the days of OS9 and the 400 mghz iMac but if
> you look at their forums and mailing lists you'll see that they have
> their problems too.

I just have to do a little walk to a friend. For Macs there is a user
scene, that only use oldish MacOS. The trick with Microsoft seems to be,
that illegal versions, cracks seems to be stable.

> Now for some positive suggestions. I'm not a very good keyboard player
> but if I had spent half of the time that I spent on linux sequencing
> practicing the keyboard I'd be pretty good by now and I could just
> play the parts into Ardour. You can always just pick up an instrument
> and play.

I was a good musician and I'm not good any more. Okay, when playing more
again (I had a time out) I might become good again, but I'm near to easy
to play instruments like guitars. Using MIDI I'm a single handed
Zawinul, Worell etc., playing left and right hand not at the same time
can be adjusted by a MIDI event editor, but not for an audio track.

> two and a half year old boy, so instead of sitting him in front of a
> video and hacking away at the computer we went outside and planted
> strawberries, peppers and grapes.

I hope you'll do so. I'm a lone wolf with less friends, an autistic
freak. I go into the woods for long walks. I NEED the computer because
I'm varied interested. I have less money, but anyhow a lot of equipment
for all kinds of interests, BUT I haven't the room to use it all, my
flat is a storeroom. Thinking about drawing and painting, I like Magic
Color Ink, but it's very expensive and because I'm not in practise with
painting too and when using a brush instead of a tubular drawing pan, a
drawing easy can have an accident. Using the computer is less expensive
and offers to undo accidents and it needs less room than classic equipment.

> Because of my linux frustrations I now have strawberries, peppers and
> grapes. If those solutions don't appeal to you, I now have things
> working pretty well on Sidux. They have a nice rt kernel (not in the
> official repository) though I'm still looking forward to 64Studio 3.0.

I'm looking backwards at the moment. Many applications are fine with
Suse 11.0 and my 64 Studio upgraded to Lenny, many of those applications
won't run with 64 Studio 2.1 default Etch, but I reinstalled a 64 Studio
default install, because I guess that actual Linux applications aren't
stable for anyone, when in use for a DAW. I read that latest rt kernels
should have more MIDI jitter than any other kernels.

The Sidux homepage is not only available, it comes in different
languages as quick as if it were in the cache.
I first try to downgrade Rosegarden for 64 Studio and will test if
today's BIOS update has positive effect to 64 Studio.

> Ralf, I wish you lots of luck and thanks to 64Studio for doing such a
> great job with the resources available in linux.

Thank you again Arthur and compliment to the 64 Studio people for trying
hard to make a stable Linux DAW instead of supporting the latest beta
and svn hypes. Maybe I have a setup that is made for the forums blacklist.

Arthur, you seems to live in a sunny country :), arable land for grapes
is rising because of the progressing climate change, but I don't think
you're from the Falklands. For children strawberries might not only be
better than computers, especially they are better for the imprinting of
the sense of taste, than all that grotesque artificial flavours.

Cheers,
Ralf

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