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Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Folderol wrote:
>> I don't understand this at all.
>>
>> Certainly on this list I'm not aware of any personality problems.
> 
> There are no problems on this list, but you need to report bugs to other
> places sometimes and than you can have a lot of problems.
> 
Yup.
> A fictive example; your DE has it's own burning application, the burning
> application is using different applications itself, you get no messages
> which application failed.
> 
> Will you report this to the distro developers?
> The DE developers?
> The tool developers?
> The end application developers?
> 
> At the end and that's not fictive any more, distro, DE, tool , end
> application are fine, but an IDE kernel modul was broken.
> 
If this really bothers you, you have a couple of choices:

1) come up with a better solution and convince everyone to use it.
2) leave, there other options.

If you opt for option 1, be prepared to defend your idea.  You will need
to demonstrate that you actually know what you are talking about and you
will need to be able to *clearly* communicate your ideas to those
involved.

> You run from pillar to post and will always be abused and you always has
> to subscribe and learn the rules and search the forums, FAQs etc.,
> before you are allowed to post a bug report.
>
Yup, just like I need to get a drivers licence before I can drive, a
diploma or degree before I graduate, a pilots licence before I can fly a
plane.  This is sort of how the world works.  Increasing my favourite
phrase is becoming "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".

Look here for what that means:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Ain%27t_No_Such_Thing_As_A_Free_Lunch

This should be required reading as well as the smart questions link I
keep posting.

> I always tend to check in forums where to post a bug, but you are only
> wanted, if the moderators can be shure, that they are the gods, if they
> don't know something you get bashed, to find out yourself what to do.
> 
If you get bashed, there is usually a reason.  If you get bashed
repeatedly, there most certainly is a reason.  Self reflection can be
very useful in these situations.

When this happens to me, I first look at what all the situations had in
common.  The first thing I notice is that *I* am common to all the
situations.  The answer to my problem usually starts there.

> For 64 Studio I've got the problem, that I can't report bugs to the
> right people, because e.g. you can't report 0.103 bugs from JACK, you
> need to have 0.116 bugs. 

Welcome to the Open Source world.  I don't see a problem here.  I may
wish things could be different, but after 10+ years I have yet to devise
a better way.  As such I work with what is in front of me.

Which stable audio distro runs 0.116?
> 
This question answers itself.  If you are testing the latest build, it
is sort of expected that you know how to do this, on whatever distro you
use.
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