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[email protected] wrote:
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>> One of the worst design decisions ever made IMO and the main reason
>> why I won't be using any Ubuntu-derived distro including this one.
>> It annoys me so much. Yes, I know you can get round it by setting a

You are not getting around anything.   PAM is configured to not allow
logins without a password.  A single command sets the password.  I like
that people new to Linux are taught some measure of security, and this
is a good thing with a Distro as popular as Ubuntu.  If anyone remembers
Lindows *shudder*, by default your day to day user *was* root.

>> root password. If I wanted my distro to dictate my behaviour, I'd
>> use a Mac. *froth*
> 
Ubuntu is not dictating anything, merely encouraging mew users to learn
good habits.  You can decide to behave differently if you so desire.  No
one is stopping you.  If this were a Mac, you would not be able to run
that single command to set things to your tastes.  Seriously, two small
words plus your password twice.  UAC this is not.

> It annoys me as well.  The fact that I have to enter the password
> after each sudo also presents a problem to me...  64 Studio debian
> based used to grant root power just by using the sudo command.
> 
This is not the default behaviour of Debian (actually it is not the
default behaviour of sudo).  Sudo has required a password on all the
default installations of every distro I have ever used, except for
64Studio.  Fortunately that was easy to correct by changing one option.

- From the sudo man page:
"NOPASSWD and PASSWD
By default, sudo requires that a user authenticate him or herself before
running a command.  This behavior can be modified via the NOPASSWD tag".

You should ask yourself why the people who made sudo set this as the
default.  The old 64Studio was the odd man out here with the NOPASSWD
option set in the *default* install (for the record, this is a bad thing
IMO).

> If we use the ubunto sources we have to make an effort to keep the
> good of the 64 Studio disto as we knew it as far as possible.  The
> alternative would be to start using snapshots of Sid (like ubuntu
> does) for 64 Studio... Too much work :-(
> 
Actually sudo only asks your password once until it times out (ie. you
don't use sudo for a while).  The Debian/Ubuntu default is 15 minutes
instead of the default 5 (compiled in option specific to Debian and
derivatives, including Ubuntu).  Ubuntu could be made to behave like you
are used to with less than 1 minute of configuration.  There is nothing
magical here.  One line gets added to /etc/sudoers via the visudo
command (so you can disable the password for sudo), and you set a root
password.  Thats it. You are free to do this, even if I (or anyone else)
considers it a bad idea.

I love this stuff too much sometimes.

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