Daniel James wrote:

    Hi Rosea,

    mmhh Qtractor seems to be one of the core apps in linuxaudio,
    especially for newbies its gui its more clear then rosegarden for
    example..

Hi Daniel :)

full ACK, but because Qtractor is rudimentary there are also some 
features missing, that makes working with Qtractor tricky and that are 
predestinated to disappoint newbies.

I know many proprietary and FLOSS sequencers and hard disk recorders and 
I'm able to handle them. The GUI of Qtractor simply is well thought out. 
A tool always should be as easy to use as Qtractor is. Even if Qtractor 
is very rudimentary and I guess it will stay rudimentary for a further 
time, it seems to be a very good application.

Rosegarden has a less good GUI, but better features, but some very 
important features are still missing for Rosegarden too, moreover 
Rosegarden has some trouble that are obligatory for many sequencers of 
all OSs, MTC is working with some external equipment, but not with all 
external equipment and I guess it's not the bad of the external 
equipment. I didn't test if Qtractor's MTC is fine, but I guess Ardour's 
MTC was fine were Rosegarden's MTC failed, but the released Ardour 
versions still come without a MIDI sequencer and some things a very 
complicated for Ardour. I'm able to use many proprietary and FLOSS tools 
without ever heaving read some manuals, but for Ardour I would have to 
read a manual, it's too different to 'standard' pro-audio tools.
I can't remember what exactly were the troubles with MTC and I might 
mistake a little bit.

MusE seems to have most needed features, but on my machine MusE isn't 
fine, the GUI of MusE seems to be better than the GUI of Rosegarden, but 
less good than the GUI of Qtractor, but I'm not absolutely sure, because 
MusE crashes on my machine.

 From the Linux FLOSS sequencers that are already released, I guess MusE 
would be the best, if MusE would be fine, but it seems to be broken for 
many users, not only on my machine, so MusE only in hypothetical is 
good. IMHO Rosegarden still seems to be the best FLOSS sequencer for 
Linux, but it's not only me who had bad experiences. The project seems 
to be to established, to quick react on the users needs. I guess some 
from different lists, also from the 64 Studio users list did bug reports 
and requests to Rosegarden that were ignored.

For Qtractor there is another issue that makes it good for newbies and 
everybody else, all JACK and ALSA-MIDI connections can be restored, 
using e.g. jack_snapshot you only can restore connections for JACK audio 
ports.

I guess that Rosegarden is an application that should be part of each 
audio distro, but Qtractor should be added too. Broken stuff like MusE 
isn't interesting and other applications e.g. LMMS are borderline, 
because they tend to be neither fish nor fowl, they tend to be more 
consumer orientated than for pro-audio usage.

It would be nice if you can focus on Qtractor upgrades and the 
rubberband trouble for 64 Studio ex 3.0 (or ex 3.0-beta3 ;)) and as a 
forerunner keep on disabling desktop environment sound effects by 
default, even if there is a heavy discussion to integrate such consumer 
nonsense for pro-audio on Linux.

I just want to tell you, that it's good to hear that you argue for Qtractor.

Now I'll have a break and later I'll try to compile the dependencies to 
compile latest CVS versions of Qtractor for 64 Studio 3.0-beta3 (Ubuntu 
Hardy) using jackdmp (JACK2). If I will be successful, I'll write a howto.

Cheers,
Ralf
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