Kevin Donnelly wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 October 2009 09:19, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>   
>> There seems to be a bug in the 64 Studio repository.
>>     
>
> With respect, Ralf, this isn't true - Synfig starts OK here, and seems to run 
> OK.  
>
> I think you're ignoring the advice given to you by a number of people on a 
> number of occasions in the past, namely - use the install as released, and 
> only make changes if you know in advance what the likely outcome will be.

Perhaps it's a problem of the packages. The Ubuntu version is fine, the 
64 Studio one isn't, there's no package for the GUI.

> If the install as released doesn't do what you want, then sorry - you have to 
> go back to Microsoft Windows or Apple Mac OSX; obviously Linux is not yet 
> sophisticated enough for your needs.
>   

This sucks :( ... I started with Linux on the PC, I'm not from Windows 
or MacOS.

> But if you decide to stick with Linux in spite of the shortcomings you have 
> identified, you shouldn't start making changes willy-nilly (eg weird things 
> like setting up chroots) - it then becomes impossible to know whether the 
> issue you face is present in the release, or (more likely) is due to your 
> tinkering, and in that case no-one on earth can tell you what you should do 
> to revert.
>   

This sucks too :(. Chroot has no impact to Synfig, Fmit or any other 
buggy stuff, it might has impact to a auto-mount problem, but anyway 
note that I do changes level-headed. 64 Studio is a beta and that's why 
it's okay that there is a problem with the 64studio package, but this 
isn't because I install software to my 64 Studio or because I set up my 
machine to my needs, btw. similar changes had no bad effect when I did 
them on other distros ;).

> So basically, you pays your money and you takes your choice - pay out for 
> proprietary stuff for its (for you) advanced features, or use what's given to 
> you in the 64Studio release, without chopping it up almost at random.  In 
> *theory* the devs could do lots of work to deal with your issues, but for 
> *practical* reasons they are concentrating on getting a decent, stable distro 
> into the hands of average users.
>
> I don't like to be rude,

No, for sure :D.

> but I would like to see fewer postings from you 
> (especially the ones where you fire off an email and then follow it up with 
> two or three postscripts).  I'm really not interested in hearing how someone 
> has buggered up his distro by making changes of his own devising - in my 
> view, since you have a great deal of audio expertise, your time would be far 
> better spent in taking the distro as released and writing some howtos or 
> tutorials for the software included.  That would be a great help to everyone 
> who uses 64Studio.  Constantly pestering developers, who have little enough 
> time as it is, is not really constructive.
>
> As an experiment, if you feel the need to reply to this, could you do it in 
> 10 
> lines or less, in one email only, and then impose a self-denying ordinance on 
> yourself not to post to the list again for 7 days?
>   

I don't orientate my life to the internet. I do read and write emails 
when I've got the time and the want to do it.

1. Linux is flexible, that's why people should be able to do changes.
2. For a beta there could be bugs and those bugs should be reported.

Btw. I do have experiences with computers since around 20 years, this 
grotesque wars only exists for Linux, I never noticed this for QL, 
Commodore, Atari etc. ...

Disgusting! I only speak well about 64 Studio, I'm not from Windows or 
MacOS.
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