jaime johnson wrote: > Hello list members, from a long time lurker, one or two time poster. I was > using Linux for music production back when the only thing to do was hack > together patches, programs, cvs code, compilers, etc., in an endless effort > to keep up with the "current" state of the art in Linux audio. For most > things Linux I was a Debian all the way guy since Hamm days, but when Gentoo > Linux gained some ease of use, I jumped right in and found it to be the best > way to keep up to date with changes and have a usable system. But all that > compiling got tiresome, and it's not very green, is it? Due to hardware > issues of my own, I'm running Ubuntu development release (with a few hacks of > my own), mainly for the fully open source graphics and wireless drivers in > the newer kernel. However, I still follow the 64studio lists (imagine this > kind of access to the development process of a closed source company!) to see > what people are doing with Linux audio, and what kind of issues > they're running into, particularly within the Debian family. I have > recommended 64studio in the past, especially to those less computer savvy > colleagues who just want to get up and running with open source software. So > I do appreciate the constant back and forth on the lists by all members. Even > the most vocal, annoying poster(s?) often provide valuable insight and > thought provoking discussions. I realize I could just filter all messages > from compulsive posters, but I don't see that as the most elegant solution. > My goal is to participate in this community, after all. > > I would advise all list members, devs and users alike, that you don't have to > show up for every fight you're invited to. Your time is too valuable to > squander on personal conflicts. > > Ralf, maybe you could consider posting to the forums more than emailing the > lists. Also just get a blog and document these struggles of yours. I'm sure > it would be well appreciated by many of the noobs and veterans alike. It's > clear you possess ample technical knowledge along with the personality traits > necessary to draw and hold an audience. Also, your linguistic abilities > position you perfectly to help many of us get a better picture of what's > happening in the non-English speaking world of Linux multimedia. Try a blog. > You'll be a hit overnight, I'm sure.
To mess around - not only because of me, e.g. take a look at the so called Raymond story on LAD - all of a sudden a lot of people have to write long mails. When there are people with issues because of audio, just a handful of people are willing to help. And the 64 Studio list still is one of the better lists. Instead of counting how many posts I made to this list, somebody should have answered the one on Ardour users having trouble, because he is running Hardy and thus using the outdated Ardour from the Hardy repository. But I do understand that it's more fun to diss somebody, instead of helping someone. Another thing is that it's really unsurpassable to diss people who are willing to go pioneer paths and who aren't fine with English, because it's not their native language. Because of the pioneer paths I'm not speaking just about me. The "conventional" applications like Rosegarden might fit to most of you, but the times will change and there are people needed who test applications like Qtractor, Non, Muse, Jconv etc.. It's the nature of 0.x versions that there will be more bug reports. I don't need to spoil you with bug reports about Qtractor in general, some people, me too are off-list in contact with Rui, while others try to get in contact with e.g. the Non coder. But why is it useful anyway to post to this list too? Because of two reasons. To solve troubles because of bad dependencies for those new apps and to let other people know that there are new ways, new dependencies. There might be rules how to use Linux, how to use mailing list, keep it the next 1000 years. Just imagine a such inflexible society. In Europe women would not have the right to vote, in South Africa black people would be second class humans etc.. All people are equal as long as they follow the conventional pattern? Even if a piss-take like the blog would be a serious idea, it would be evil. Eject the Negro, Redskin etc. into reservations. For this "common, accepted manners there is a word for, it's called "fascistic". Chew it over, before you attack me. First the agitation. While Rui is fine, speaking in the name of him, that he isn't fine with my reports and all that other lies. Then the indication, in another forum, a woman was like me and because people like me have the power to ruin the ideals of Linux, that's why they were banned in some imaginary other forum. Then the final solution, we are humanists, reeducation and reservations are in supply. The German word für so etwas gelinde formuliert ist faschistoid. > I subscribe to these lists to keep abreast of what's going on in 64studio > releases and development as well as real world applications, in order to be > helpful to friends and clients using the mostly uhhacked, out of the box, > 64studio distro. But I do appreciate hearing of the travails of others with > open source music production. Time and place for everything, they say. > > Thanks again to all the devs and users who make this distro happen. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim (himay) _______________________________________________ 64studio-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.64studio.com/mailman/listinfo/64studio-users
