Hi Pascal,
  Works for me! Thanks for addressing my issues. I agree that this needs to be 
addressed        quickly, we have an urgent need for this functionality.

Gene Falendysz
864-723-1395 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 2:20 PM
To: Falendysz, Gene <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: New Version Notification for 
draft-thubert-6lo-multicast-registration-00.txt

Hello Gene

Many thanks for your review and comments!

And welcome to the list : )

Please see below 

> Le 4 oct. 2021 à 19:28, Falendysz, Gene <[email protected]> a écrit :
> 
> Ok everyone, please excuse the fumbling of the new guy. My previous comments 
> were actually for this draft, not the one I indicated earlier. Please 
> disregard my last email.
> 
> Repeated, now for the correct draft:
> Hi Pascal,
>  This is a very good addition. It is needed for devices that have very 
> limited resources. Battery devices in the utility industry sleep for periods 
> of time and are not conducive to the discovery methods that require broadcast.

Yes, I understand that we underestimated the need of multicast when we did RFC 
8505 and 9010. We need to catch up quickly now.

> I do have  few comments:
> -    In the introduction it mentions that energy drain and then further 
> qualifies it to transmissions. In reality listening is also a significant 
> power consumer which is why many battery devices employ sampled listening.

Certainly, though in gory details that depends a lot on the MAC operation. I 
wanted to pack all aspects in the word transmission. I’ll tweak to indicate the 
power to turn the radio on.

> -    In the third last paragraph of the introduction it talks about the 
> registration of “a multicast address”. It should not be limited to 
> registering a single multicast address. Constrained devices may need to 
> receive from multiple multicast addresses.

There was no intent to restrict that; but I’ll clarify “one or more”.


> -    The last paragraph of section 3 indicates that the multicast frames are 
> unicast to the each 6LN that registers for a multicast address. If the MAC 
> supports it, why not allow broadcast?
> 

For reliability. Broadcast is typically not acknowledged. Also sleeping devices 
like to pull their packets on their own time. I can make it a SHOULD when I 
specify that part and add “typically” to section 3.

Works?

Keep safe,

Pascal 
> Best regards,
> 
> Gene Falendysz
> 864-723-1395 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 6lo <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
> Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 12:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [6lo] FW: New Version Notification for 
> draft-thubert-6lo-multicast-registration-00.txt
> 
> Dear all:
> 
> I published an early draft for the support of multicast address registration 
> so that a 6LN that registers its unicast GUA/ULA addresses using RFC 8505 can 
> also register to multicast streams the same way. This makes the 6LN life a 
> lot easier than MLDv2, which requires the host to listen to multicast queries 
> from the router, same bottom line as with classical ND really. 
> 
> The draft has an overview and some deployment considerations that give a good 
> idea of where it's going. It will also cover the equivalent of RFC 901à to 
> inject the multicast registration into the RPL MOP 3 that is how RPL supports 
> multicast.
> 
> Before I dive in the gory details, I'd appreciate feedback to unsure that the 
> new operation as currently laid out in the draft is consistent with your 
> expectations.
> 
> Please share your thoughts;
> 
> Pascal
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
> Sent: jeudi 30 septembre 2021 11:46
> To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[email protected]>
> Subject: New Version Notification for 
> draft-thubert-6lo-multicast-registration-00.txt
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-thubert-6lo-multicast-registration-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Pascal Thubert and posted to the IETF 
> repository.
> 
> Name:        draft-thubert-6lo-multicast-registration
> Revision:    00
> Title:        IPv6 Neighbor Discovery Multicast Address Registration
> Document date:    2021-09-30
> Group:        Individual Submission
> Pages:        14
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> 
> Abstract:
>   This document updates RFC 8505 in order to enable the registration by
>   a 6LN of an IPv6 multicast address to a 6LR.  This document also
>   extends RFC 9010 to enable the 6LR to inject the address in the RPL
>   multicast support.
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