Bonjour Pascal,

Thanks for the follow-up.

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

De : Pascal Thubert <[email protected]>
Envoyé : lundi 26 mai 2025 16:36
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <[email protected]>
Cc : The IESG <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Objet : Re: Mohamed Boucadair's Discuss on 
draft-ietf-6lo-prefix-registration-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)



Dear Mohamed

Many thanks for your kind review.

I'd like to address the DISCUSS first and the rest separately to be faster on 
that part.

Please see below :

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DISCUSS:
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Bonjour Pascal,

Thanks for the effort put into this specification with many "surgical" changes
that manipulate various pieces.

Special thanks for Section 3. Note that some of these considerations (e.g.,
those discussing pre-requisites) are better moved to an operational
considerations section.

Good point I'll see how I can do that.
[Med] Thanks.



# DISCUSS

## Consistency with 7400 and IANA registration

CURRENT:
      0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |     Type      |   Length = 1  |   Reserved    |X|A|D|L|B|P|E|G|
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
     |F|                           Reserved                          |
     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

                 Figure 4: New Capability Bit in the 6CIO

  New Option Field:

  *F:*  1-bit flag, set to 1 to indicate "Registration for prefixes
     Supported"

### Per
https://www.iana.org/assignments/icmpv6-parameters/icmpv6-parameters.xhtml#sixlowpan-capability-bits,
the request should indicate a bit position.

Yes. And actually we had that discussion with David (IANA) upon his early 
review.

Position 16 that you find in the figure is requested in section 13.2.
[Med] ACK.

### None of the entries in that registry updates 7400. Any specific reason why
are we deviating from that practice?

I understand that you suggest to remove rfc 7400 from
the draft heading. I'm good with that.
[Med] Thanks.


### The fields indicated as "Reserved" in Figure are marked as unassigned (not
reserved) in RFC7400: "Bits marked by underscores in Figure 5 are unassigned
and available for future assignment.". Some consistency is needed here vs. 7400

The behavior described in section 3.4 of rfc 7400 is that of reserved fields 
(set to 0 and ignore upon receiving). I can remove the ´reserved' in the 
picture and inherit the _ from rfc 7400 if that's ok?
[Med] Yes, please. Removing the figure would be even better, IMO.


### Any reason why not any of the unassigned bits in the low range is used?

David's point. RFC 7400 makes those bits experimental.
[Med] Thanks.


## New EARO Prefix Length Field and F flag

CURRENT:
     0                   1                   2                   3
     0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |     Type      |     Length    |F|Prefix Length|    Opaque     |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |r|C| P | I |R|T|     TID       |     Registration Lifetime     |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
    |                                                               |
   ...                            ROVR                             ...
    |                                                               |
    +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

           Figure 5: EARO Option Format for Use in NS Messages

  New and updated Option Fields:

### Only PRT are defined in
https://www.iana.org/assignments/icmpv6-parameters/icmpv6-parameters.xhtml#icmpv6-adress-registration-option-flags.
Where the flags are defined?

R is unassigned.
[Med] I guess you meant "r" as R has already a meaning. BTW, you may rename "r" 
to "u" to indicate this is unassigned and avoid confusing with R flag.

C is an oversight from RFC 8928 that we are fixing with 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-6lo-updating-rfc-8928-02
[Med] Thanks for the clarification about. But what about I-flag?

Both RFCs should be in the same cluster and have consecutive numbers.



### RFC8505 says "MUST be set to 0 in NS messages". How a legacy receiver will
handle this updated EARO option? Will it be ignored? Rejected? Please consider
adding some considerations to the backward compatibility section. Of course,
adding a pointer to where this is already described would be sufficient. Thanks.

That is the point of using RFC 7400 above. The receiver has indicated that it 
supports the extension else the sender does not use it. Should I clarify that ? 
A new section seems overkill.

What would you suggest ?
[Med] I suggest that you rename your current "Backward Compatibility" Section 
to "Operational Considerations" and then enrich it with the clarification you 
provided above. Thanks.

Pascal





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COMMENT:
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# Consistency with Your Own Terminology on Amend/Extend

For example,

OLD: 4. Updating RFC 4861
NEW: 4. Amending RFC 4861

# Section 5:

CURRENT:
  5.  Extending RFC 7400

This is about associating a meaning with an unassigned value in a registry
managed by IANA, not updating 7400.

The document says "[RFC7400] was already extended by [RFC8505]" but it does so
without updating 7400.

# Section 7.1: Update 8505

The values are handled in an IANA registry:
https://www.iana.org/assignments/icmpv6-parameters/icmpv6-parameters.xhtml#p-field-values.
Nothing is updated in 8505. Also, this field is defined in rfc9685, not 8505.

Why is this subsection provided under "Update 8505"?

# Section 12

Consider adding some deployment considerations. For example, how the various
extensions are expected to be added to a network that is composed of nodes
compliant with existing RFCs?

# NITS

## Abstract

### nits, expand acronyms, etc.

OLD:
  This document updates IPv6 Neighbor Discovery RFC4861 and the 6LoWPAN
  extensions (RFC8505, RFC8928, RFC8929, RFC7400) to enable a node that
  owns or is directly connected to a prefix to register that prefix to
  neighbor routers.  The registration indicates that the registered
  prefix can be reached via the advertising node without a loop.  The
  unicast prefix registration allows to request neighbor router(s) to
  redistribute the prefix in a larger routing domain regardless of the
  routing protocol used in the larger domain.  This document extends
  RPL (RFC6550, RFC6553, RFC9010) to enable the 6LR to inject the
  registered prefix in RPL.

NEW:
  This document updates IPv6 Neighbor Discovery (RFC 4861) and the 6LoWPAN
  extensions (RFC 8505, RFC 8928, RFC 8929, and RFC 7400) to enable a node that
  owns or is directly connected to a prefix to register that prefix to
  neighbor routers.  The registration indicates that the registered
  prefix can be reached via the advertising node without a loop.  The
  unicast prefix registration allows to request neighbor router(s) to
  redistribute the prefix in a larger routing domain regardless of the
  routing protocol used in that domain.  This document extends
  Routing Protocol for Low-Power and Lossy Networks (RPL) (RFC 6550,
  RFC 6553, and RFC 9010) to enable a 6LoWPAN Router (6LR) to inject the
  registered prefix in RPL.

### Large routing domain

What does that mean? Do we really need to mention that for injecting routes?

I would avoid that as this is a distraction at this stage.

# Introduction

### Stimulated

CURRENT:
  *  Unicast host to router operations stimulated by the host and its
     applications.

What does "stimulated" mean here? Do we mean "triggered"?

### (nits) There are many instance of 6LN/6LR

Consider making these changes:

OLD:
     unicast Neighbor Solicitation (NS) and Neighbor Advertisement (NA)
     messages between the 6LN and the 6LR.

NEW:
     unicast Neighbor Solicitation (NS) and Neighbor Advertisement (NA)
     messages between a 6LN and a 6LR.

OLD:
     [RFC9010] to enable the 6LR to inject the anycast and multicast
     addresses in RPL.  Similarly, this specification extends [RFC8505]
     and [RFC9010] to add the capability for the 6LN to register
     unicast prefixes as opposed to addresses, and to signal in a
     routing-protocol-independent fashion to the 6LR that it is
     expected to redistribute the prefixes.

NEW:
     [RFC9010] to enable a 6LR to inject the anycast and multicast
     addresses in RPL.  Similarly, this specification extends [RFC8505]
     and [RFC9010] to add the capability for a 6LN to register
     unicast prefixes as opposed to addresses, and to signal in a
     routing-protocol-independent fashion to a 6LR that it is
     expected to redistribute the prefixes.

There are other instances in the document that I think should be fixed as well.

Cheers,
Med


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