Given the feedback, I believe the chairs can submit the documents for IESG 
review.

Regards
Christian


-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Philip Levis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: lø 1/6/2007 10:17
Til: gabriel montenegro
Cc: Schumacher Christian Peter Pii; [email protected]
Emne: Re: [6lowpan] WG last call on Format document
 
On Jan 5, 2007, at 10:16 AM, gabriel montenegro wrote:

> On Comment 1: Reassembly: I don't think we should delay the draft  
> because of this.
> I think this is an interesting research topic. I notice that there  
> are similarities with
> the folks applying DTN to sensor networks (projects at UCLA's LECS,  
> SICS, Trinity College, etc).
> DTN is itself a research group in the IRTF, so similarly, I see  
> such extensions to LoWPAN
> as possible  alternatives once the basic draft in its current form  
> is done. One possible
> avenue is to reuse AODV to do the discovery of the DTN-capable  
> devices, and integrate with
> the routing layer such that the proper tradeoffs (end-to-end, hop- 
> by-hop or anything in the
> middle) are possible. Such an approach was discussed recently at  
> the CHANTS workshop and
> IRTF DTNRG:
> paper:  http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/1162654.1162659
> slides: http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06nov/slides/DTNRG-11.pdf
> Such functionality should be worked on subsequent to the base spec.
>

My point isn't take the document should specify single-hop  
reassembly. It's that, as written, it precludes single-hop  
reassembly. If the spec were, for example, to say that the two  
headers could be in either order, then there would be no problem. My  
concern is that the document -- without any technical justification  
for the decision -- is digging itself into a hole where producing  
efficient (in terms of energy, RAM, and code space) implementations  
will be difficult. It might be that a new mesh2 header emerges that  
reverses the order, with the cost of a few extra bits in each packet.

That being said, there is the point to be made that large packets in  
6lowpan are expected to be very rare and mostly present for complete  
interoperability than for core use cases. So this might in the end be  
entirely irrelevant. Given the lateness in the process and lack of  
forward progress, having something is better than nothing. So I'll  
shelve my concern and am happy to agree on the document.

>
> I note that there is one remaining item which fell through the cracks:
> we need to define the format of future dispatch headers. The length  
> of the
> dispatch headers defined in the base spec is known, so protocol  
> parsing can
> proceed. For future dispatch headers, we need to include a length  
> field in
> a well-known place in the header, otherwise proper parsing is not  
> possible.
> This needs to be in the base spec.

I had thought that the discussion went down the road of "if you don't  
know the header type, drop the packet," keeping packet processing  
simple.

Phil

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