It seems a bit implementation issue. Our format document defines four classes:

[1] Prefix In-line IID In-line
[2] Prefix In-line IID compressed
[3] Prefix compressed IID In-line
[4] Prefix compressed IID compressed

Most assumtion in our scenario as of today is [4]. It means IPv6
source and destination belong to link-local scope. In your assumtion,
perhaps, [1] and [2] are appropriate. In that sense, 6lowpan
adoptation layer seems not meaningful. Also, 6lowpan header
compression is only applied for 802.15.4 link due to the tiny
bandwidth.

Daniel

On 1/18/07, Mario Mao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I agree with gabriel, there is no interference between header compression
and ICMP. However, I believe two points should be noted which may cause
information loss.

1. If the processing node is lowpan gateway/router and the sent packet comes
from Internet but not originates by the gateway/router itself, the IID of IP
source address shouldn't be compressed.
2. If the IP destination isn't an "on-link" node (that means the destination
is more than one hop away from source node), the IID of IP destination
address shouldn't be compressed.

In a word, 6lowpan node could only compress the IID that derives from IEEE
802.15.4 MAC address. I think that point should be emphasized in draft,
isn't it?

Regards,

Mario


----- Original Message -----
From: gabriel montenegro
To: Geoff Mulligan ; 6lowpan
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [6lowpan] Slight problem with format document


Is this even necessary to be said? ICMP msgs will never be sent by
intermediate nodes
in a lowpan mesh, but only by the IPv6 end nodes as part of normal IPv6
processing.
This processing takes place after the lowpan layer delivers packets to the
IPv6 stack. So by the time the IPv6 stack gets the packet, it will have been
decompressed. This is the same for lowpan header compression or any other
type
of header compression.

So I wonder if the text below is needed. It would be needed if the entity
sending
back ICMP messages was the lowpan layer. Yes, it would see compressed
headers.
But the entity is the IPv6 stack, which does not see those compressed
headers.

Comments? Am I missing something?

-gabriel

----- Original Message ----
From: Geoff Mulligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 6lowpan <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:36:52 PM
Subject: [6lowpan] Slight problem with format document

While reviewing the format document I realized that we didn't describe
handling of ICMPv6 error messages.  Since the 6lowpan headers may be
compressed it is necessary to uncompress the original IP and transport
headers before sending the ICMP error message.

Here is my proposed text for a new section 12...

12. Handling ICMPv6 messages

ICMPv6 (RFC2463) is used to report errors and carry IP layer information
and functions such as diagnostics.  There are two groups of ICMPv6
messages: error messages and informational messages. Each message
consists of a type field (if the high order bit is 0 it is an error
message), a code and checksum field.  These fields are followed by the
ICMPv6 message body.  For ICMPv6 error messages (Type <128) the message
body shall contain as much of the original (offending) IP message
without exceeded the minimum IPv6 MTU.

As described in the preceding section (Header Compression), the original
IPv6 and Transport (TCP or UDP) headers may be compressed via HC1 and
HC2 encoding.  So that the destination node of an ICMPv6 error message
can properly process the message the source node must decompress the
IPv6 and transport headers before sending the ICMPv6 message.  This is
necessary because the original MAC addresses and the HC1 and HC2
encoding headers will be lost and the recipient would have no ability to
reconstruct the original message nor compute the proper checksum.

The ICMPv6 message itself is carried inside and IPv6 packet and this
packet may be transmitted over the 6LoWPAN network utilizing header
compression.  ICMPv6 messages that are larger than the available payload
of the 6LoWPAN network will need to be fragmented. Assuming the maximum
frame overhead, maximum link layer security and including a 6LoWPAN Mesh
Header, Fragmentation Header and Dispatch Header, sending the
uncompressed IPv6 and transport headers should still allow for 25 octets
of the original packet payload.  Packets using short addresses, no
security, and just a 6LoWPAN Dispatch header will be able to carry 61
octets of the original packet.




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