Hi Daniel,
Yes, we will have an update of the ND-OPT draft as it has currently in
expired state.

If you have any specific comment/contribution on ND-OPT, let's discuss off-line.
The following information on ND tuning for 802.16 network is useful.

Thanks,
-Samita

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:36 PM, Daniel Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am repeating my comments:
>
> Samita, are you working for ND-Opt revision ? That's very welcome to me and
> I am willing to contribute on this deliverable if any chances...:-)
>
> [cut and paste from the previous thread]
>
> This is a tip for understanding and referring how we can fat down NDP for
> 6lowpan networks. In 16ng working group, we tried to live up with IEEE
> 802.16 Idle/Sleep mode in conjunction with IPv6 NDP. Here is a RA
> optimization results...
>
>
>
> Hope those efforts help...
>
>
>
> Daniel Park
>
> Co-chair, 16ng working group.
>
>
>
>
>
> 8.2.  Router Advertisement
>
>    The AR SHOULD send a number (configurable value) of router
>    advertisements as soon as the IPv6 link is established, to the MS.
>    The AR sends unsolicited router advertisements periodically as per
>    [RFC4861].  The interval between periodic router advertisements is
>    however greater than the specification in Neighbor discovery for
>    IPv6, and is discussed in the following section.
>
> 8.3.  Router lifetime and periodic router advertisements
>
>    The router lifetime SHOULD be set to a large value, preferably in
>    hours.  This document over-rides the specification for the value of
>    the router lifetime in Neighbor Discovery for IP Version 6 (IPv6)
>    [RFC4861].  The AdvDefaultLifetime in the router advertisement MUST
>    be either zero or between MaxRtrAdvInterval and 43200 seconds.  The
>    default value is 2 * MaxRtrAdvInterval.
>
>    802.16 hosts have the capability to transition to an idle mode in
>    which case the radio link between the BS and MS is torn down.  Paging
>    is required in case the network needs to deliver packets to the MS.
>    In order to avoid waking a mobile which is in idle mode and consuming
>    resources on the air interface, the interval between periodic router
>    advertisements SHOULD be set quite high.  The MaxRtrAdvInterval value
>    specified in this document over-rides the recommendation in Neighbor
>    Discovery for IP Version 6 (IPv6) [ RFC4861].  The MaxRtrAdvInterval
>    MUST be no less than 4 seconds and no greater than 21600 seconds.
>    The default value for MaxRtrAdvInterval is 10800 seconds.
>
>
> On 6/17/08, Samita Chakrabarti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pascal,
>>
>> On 6/16/08, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi Geoff:
>> >
>> > This part:
>> > "
>> > such as reusing the structure of the 802.15.4 network
>> > (e.g., by using the coordinators), and reduce the need for multicast
>> > by having devices talk to coordinators (without creating a single
>> > point-of-failure, or changing the semantics of the IPv6 ND
>> > multicasts)
>> > "
>> >
>> > Might be unwelcome. Seems to dictate solutions, which solutions might be
>> > hard to achieve at IETF.
>> > Note that I am in favor of using L2 beacons as opposed to uniquely data
>> > frames to carry RAs.
>> > Can we just remove this text for the time being, and just say that we
>> > want to
>> > " reduce the need for multicast ", "limit the need to wake up sleeping
>> > devices", that type of things?
>>
>> I  respectfully disagree with you on that. The solution that reduce
>> the need of multicast in IPv6 already exists and it has been discussed
>> in the working group many times in the past. Please refer to:
>> draft-chakrabarti-6lowpan-ipv6-nd-04.txt
>>
>> There is a need for reducing multicast and broadcast in the
>> reduced-power and low-processing ability devices that require to save
>> power and do not want to wake up on multicast/broadcast messages - it
>> is pretty clear in 802.15.4 network.
>> The charter talks about the context of IPv6 where multicast is
>> primarily used for solicitation and advertisement and that will have
>> to be reduced since 802.15.4 is a shared network.
>>
>> I'll re-submit a revised draft before this IETF.
>>
>> -Samita
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>
>
> --
> Soohong Daniel Park [at] Samsung Electronics
> Standard Architect, http://blog.naver.com/natpt
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