Hi Carsten:

Some implementations and dependant standards would require a timeline
for this. Leaving it up in the air does not help our users do their
product planning? 

Considering the attention and the work on the new LOWPAN_IPHC, I expect
that we'll be ready for WGLC after 2/3 more respins. That could be
achieved by Minneapolis time if we can rally all interested parties to
comment on the existing published spec. So could you chairs please:

>>>>>>>>>> propose a time line to the WG along those lines <<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>> raise WG attention on this work?                <<<<<<<<<<<<

Also by or at Minneapolis, my sensation is that we should not only
discuss the terms of deprecating RFC 4944 HC but also consider the spec
as a whole:

- Mesh Header is a layer violation. I talked to implementers and their
message is that they do not use it because it's never exactely what that
specific radio needs; so they end up with their own mesh header anyway
and will not duplicate things for the sake of comliance. Instead we
might need a Routing header, pretty useful for source routing in route
over. 

- Fragments are not recovered individually. We have enough experience to
know where that leads should a 6LoWPAN network experience either high
load or high BER. We have a draft on the works to deprecate that with
recoverable fragments.

- The Current HC WG doc covers all the compression cases in RFC 4944,
bigger and badder.

So what's left? 

My proposal is to start a 4944bis that would focus on the addressing
architecture, would be the placeholder to control the dispatch type but
would defer to the drafts/RFCs that actually detail the operation of
each dispatch type. 

What do you think?

Pascal

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Carsten Bormann
>Sent: jeudi 9 octobre 2008 16:43
>To: Julien Abeille (jabeille)
>Cc: Carsten Bormann; [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [6lowpan] rfc4944, hc and dispatchs
>
>On Oct 09 2008, at 16:09, Julien Abeille (jabeille) wrote:
>
>> - does it officialy deprecate the old header compression scheme?
>
>My impression of the mailing list consensus is that this is what the
>WG wants to achieve.
>At the time this was discussed, I cautioned that it is premature to
>decide on replacing something existing with known flaws with something
>not yet quite cooked (and, hence, with unknown flaws).
>So I expect we'll ultimately decide this question at the time HC and
>the related specs come up for WGLC.
>Clearly, the stated intention of many WG members is to make this
>happen, as it would be wasteful to support two HC schemes in tiny
>implementations.
>
>Gruesse, Carsten
>
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