Hi Robert, let me give my oppinion on this.

Robert Assimiti a écrit :
Hello,

I was going over the second spin of Draft-IETF-6lowpan-usercases.

I am a bit unclear on the definition of the LoWPAN link. A LoWPAN Link is coined as:

/“//A low-power wireless link which is shared by a link-local scope in a LoWPAN. In a LoWPAN, a link can be a very instable set of nodes, for instance the set of nodes that can receive a packet/ /that is broadcast over the air in a route over LoWPAN, or the set of nodes currently reachable in an L2 mesh in a mesh under LoWPAN. Such a set may vary from one packet to the next /
/as the nodes move or as the radio propagation conditions change.”/

It is clear that we are targeting point-to-point and point-to-multipoint here, but there is nothing that indicates the directionality of the link.

I am not sure what you mean being clear we're targetting ptp and pt-to-mpt links...

I am aware ROLL WG targets the point-to-multipoint types of traffic (not the links).

I think 802.15.4 link may be a point-to-point link, or a 'star' topology, which one may interpret as being a point-to-multipoint link.

Whereas I understand very well running IP over a point-to-point link, I don't see how would it run over a point-to-multipoint link, never saw this before.

As for the link-local scope mentioned in the paragraph above, I think it comes from what a "link-local scope" is for link like an Ethernet link. But, it is not clear at all what a link-local scope would be on a 802.15.4 star topology made of a point-to-multipoint link: would a packet sent by the center reach all edges? Or only one? Would a packet from an edge to another have a dst address the center or the edge? Two dst addresses?

I prefer to think that a LoWPAN subnet is covered by an IP link-local scope, has at least one single IPv6 subnet prefix; and that IP packets addressed to a link-local IPv6 address reaches all nodes in the LoWPAN, without being 'IP-forwarded'.

If such LoWPAN subnet sit on a 802.15.4 link then that 802.15.4 link should offer link-layer multicast support to the LoWPAN subnet, such that the words "link-local scope" to have a meaning for a 802.15.4-based LoWPAN. This is not the case today.

Is the definition here (since it is a wireless context) considered unidirectional or bi-directional?

This is a good question. I do suppose 6LoWPAN WG uses links which are bidirectional and symmetric.

Alex


Also, the definition given in RFC4861 does not really apply here.

 Thanks for anyone that could offer a clarification.

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