Hi Alex,

Indeed, 'reachability' is not listed in many directories. However, the
IETF seems to accept it as a word. For instance:

RFC 1273 "Measurement Study of Changes in Service-Level Reachability
in the Global TCP/IP Internet"
RFC 5549 "Advertising IPv4 Network Layer Reachability Information with
an IPv6 Next Hop"

Cheers,
Dominik

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Alexandru Petrescu
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Dominik Kaspar a écrit :
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would 'non-reflexive' (better called 'irreflexive') reachability
>
> 'Irreflexive' sounds good to my dictionary, and to me better than
> non-reflexive.
>
> 'Reachability' is absent from many dictionaries.
>
> Alex
>
>> mean that a node can not reach itself? If so... I think the term
>> still makes sense, because 6LoWPAN nodes usually cannot send and
>> receive at the same time (except if they had two physical radio
>> interfaces).
>>
>> By the way, typo: assymetric -> asymmetric.
>>
>> Greetings, Dominik
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Burnett, Peter
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Zach, I'm wondering if the term 'non-reflexive' in RFC4861 should
>>> have been 'non-symmetric'. Mathematically, an equivalence
>>> relationship is defined as being reflexive, symmetric and
>>> transitive. Symmetric is the property which is untrue on a
>>> unidirectional link not reflexive. Apologies if this is nonsense,
>>> I'm new to this list. Thanks Peter
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zach Shelby Sent:
>>> 2009 May 12 10:38 To: 6lowpan Subject: [6lowpan] Terminology
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am working on an updated terminology set for the nd draft. The
>>> terminology is now split with 6LoWPAN general terminology now in
>>> its own section. I would like comments on this updated set (below)
>>> where I have tried to find a solution based on the constructive
>>> discussions we had on the list.
>>>
>>> After looking through all the background RFCs in detail, it
>>> actually turns out this is not as hard as we thought. RFC4861
>>> actually does cover the wireless case as it defines assymetric
>>> properties of wireless links including non-transitivity (see
>>> Section 2.2). In fact RFC4861 actually mentions that the protocol
>>> (ND) will presumably be extended in the future to deal with links
>>> that are assymetric (non-reflexive, non-transitive). That is what
>>> we are doing with ND for 6LoWPAN!
>>>
>>> Therefore I have now defined link as being non-transitive and
>>> complex NBMA, which can be somewhat overcome using link-layer mesh
>>> techniques or by with IP routing. This greatly simplifies the
>>> definition of a subnet (whew!), as we keep the RFC4291 where subnet
>>> <= link. As we are performing IP routing to overcome the
>>> non-transitive nature, the subnet does exhibit one aspect of
>>> multi-link subnet mentioned in RFC4903.
>>>
>>> IP routing has been defined as Alex recommended as it has specific
>>> properties to 6LoWPAN. In the architecture section of nd-03 we will
>>>  include LoWPAN IP routing examples including topology and what is
>>> in the table.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> General 6LoWPAN Terminology:
>>>
>>> This section defines additional general terms related to the
>>> 6LoWPAN architecture used in this specification:
>>>
>>> IP Routing
>>>
>>> The forwarding of datagrams at the IP layer between arbitrary
>>> source-destination pairs, during which the hop limit is decremented.  In the
>>> LoWPAN context, IP routing is performed by LoWPAN Routers on a single
>>> interface within the same link to overcome the non-transient nature of the
>>> link.  Exact match search is performed on the dst address of the IP packet
>>> to find the next- hop to the destination.  Referred to as routing in this
>>> document.
>>>
>>> Link
>>>
>>> The link is a communication facility or medium over which nodes can
>>> communicate at the link-layer, i.e., the layer directly below IP
>>> ([RFC4861]). 6LoWPAN assumes the use of low-power and lossy wireless
>>> links such as IEEE 802.15.4, which is a special type of link as described in
>>> [RFC4861] exhibiting severe assymetric reachability with both non-reflexive
>>> and non-transitive qualities. Furthermore complex Non-broadcast Multi-Access
>>> (NBMA) behaviour is exhibited as these links do not support native
>>> multicast, and broadcast reaches only a subset of nodes on the link.  The
>>> use of link-layer mesh technology (see Mesh Under) emulates transitivity
>>> across the link but still has problems with non-reflexitivity. Multicast on
>>> a link-layer mesh is usually implemented as a broadcast flood.
>>>
>>> Link-local
>>>
>>> Standard IPv6 link-local scope as defined in [RFC4291] and [RFC4861] is
>>> supported by the 6LoWPAN link and subnet model. Link-local scope is achieved
>>> by setting the hop limit to 1, using link-local prefix or link-local
>>> multicast scope.  If a link is non-transient then link-local scope includes
>>> only a subset of nodes
>>> on the link (the set of nodes within assymetric radio range of a
>>> node).  Nodes in the link-local scope of a node are its neighbors,
>>> and this link-local scope may be different for each node on a link.
>>>
>>>
>>> LoWPAN Host
>>>
>>> A node that only sources or sinks IPv6 datagrams.  Referred to as a
>>> host in this document.
>>>
>>> LoWPAN Node
>>>
>>> A node that composes a LoWPAN and is used to refer to both hosts and
>>> routers.  Referred to as a node in this document.
>>>
>>> LoWPAN Router
>>>
>>> A node that forwards datagrams between arbitrary source- destination
>>> pairs using a single 6LoWPAN interface performing IP routing on that
>>> interface.
>>>
>>> Mesh Under
>>>
>>> A term referring to a configuration where the link-local scope is defined
>>> by the boundaries of the LoWPAN and includes all the 6LoWPAN interfaces
>>> within it.  Forwarding and multihop routing functions are achieved at the
>>> link layer.  In this configuration the link may still exhibit assymetric
>>> behaviour.
>>>
>>> Route Over
>>>
>>> A term referring to a configuration where the link is non- transient and
>>> the link-local scope reaches only a subset of the LoWPAN nodes.  IP routing
>>> is performed by LoWPAN Routers to overcome to the non-transient nature of
>>> the link.  This configuration may consist of both routers nad hosts.
>>>
>>> Subnet
>>>
>>> A subnet is the collection of interfaces having the same IPv6 subnet
>>> prefix on a link, as defined in [RFC4291].  A LoWPAN is made
>>> up of the interfaces of LoWPAN Nodes and Edge Routers sharing the
>>> same subnet prefix.  Due to the non-transient nature of 6LoWPAN
>>> links, IP routing may be used on the link to provide transitivity.
>>> This exhibits a multi-link subnet feature with regard to hop limit
>>> as defined in [RFC4903], and thus 6LoWPAN applications should make
>>> no assumptions about the hop limit as it may be decremented in a
>>> LoWPAN.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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