Hi Zach

 >
> > You're not addressing my question. My question is how do you do mesh
> > under with 2 routers and the answer cannot be route over. So?
> > If the draft does not answer that question and cannot point on a
draft
> > that does, then, no, it does not stand on its feet, sorry.
> 
> This configuration is clearly out-of-scope for the base mechanism
draft (nd-
> 09). When you write that extended LoWPAN draft then there is something
to
> reference. Anyways, mesh-under just a special case of route-over where
all
> LoWPAN nodes happen to be hosts one IP hop away from the 6LBR. One
> solution is to run a routing protocol over the backbone as with
route-over to
> solve this.

[Pascal] I think that we agree. If a mesh-under network where nodes are
not one hop away from an LBR is out of scope, then the draft works fine.
To be able to accommodate more than 1 router in the mesh-under network,
we need either route over, or the registrar we called the whiteboard.
In previous understanding, a LoWPAN would be extended via a backbone,
and I expected a different, faster technology there. 

If we take away the WB from the base spec, then an LoWPAN becomes
extended as soon as we add a second router onto it. Would that be your
new definition? 

> > The vote that lead to 08 was based on the assumption that we could
make
> > a front end that could be common to multiple backend techniques,
DHCP,
> > whiteboard, etc...
> > This assumption was wrong. Erik demonstrated that it already failed
with
> > DHCP before we even tried to make it work for whiteboard. So it's
> > simply moot. I think the draft needs the complete picture and that
> > includes the registrar.
> 
> DHCPv6 works just fine with nd-09. Let's write the extended LoWPAN
draft
> first
> before saying that nd-09 is broken. What exactly are you missing here
from
> nd-09,
> is there some specific option or codes or what that would be needed by
your
> upcoming draft?
> 
[Pascal] My other point exactly. We do not know till we have the other
Draft. I thought having the WB inside the base spec would avoid that
hassle. But obviously we can have 2 specs pointing on one another. Or 3,
since I figure that the ND proxy is really a separate beast. 

What does the group think?

Pascal

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