Hi Thomas,

> On 09 Dec 2016, at 15:28, Thomas Watteyne <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Glenn,
> 
> Do you plan on participating at the call in 34min? I will add an action point 
> to discuss about it.

Unfortunately, today I’m not able to participate in the call. 

> 
> My take is that 6P signaling traffic is nothing different from regluar 
> traffic, and I don't believe we have any text anywhere that mandates a 
> particular cell/slotframe to be used for it. Why not just let 6P traffic flow 
> on the same cells at DATA, and let SF0 size the bundle between the neighbor 
> nodes so it offers enough bandwidth for all traffic.

Ok, thanks. I was confused about this because of this section, 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol-03#section-3.2 
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-6tisch-6top-protocol-03#section-3.2>, 
where it is mentioned that 6P could be used alongside the minimal configuration 
slotframe. I thought that the second slotframe (“slotframe 1”) had the specific 
goal to allow the exchange of 6P messages. It seems that I interpreted that 
section wrongly.

> 
> About the simyulation, Malisa is spearheading the project. I'll let him 
> update you.

In the meanwhile, he already updated me: the shared slots should work. 

> 
> Thomas

Thanks,
Glenn

-- 
Glenn Daneels
IDLab research group
Dept. Mathematics and Computer Science
University of Antwerp - imec
Campus Middelheim, Building G, Office M.G.212
Email: [email protected]

> 
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Glenn Daneels <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I am wondering if there is any policy on when 6P reservations request and 
> responses (the “6P transaction”) should be sent (when e.g. doing 
> neighbor-to-neighbor scheduling). In the 6TiSCH minimal configuration there 
> is not really a need for this because of the static schedule (the one active 
> cell). But when using a dynamic scheduler as SF0, the 6P requests and 
> responses should also be sent. In the "6TiSCH Operation Sublayer (6top)”, it 
> is suggested that 6P can be used with the minimal configuration 
> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-6tisch-6top-sublayer-04#section-2.2 
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wang-6tisch-6top-sublayer-04#section-2.2>);
>  it is recommended that two types of slotframes are used: one (SFR0) for the 
> Minimal 6TiSCH configuration and one (SFR1) for 6P to allocate cells from. 
> Should SFR1 then be used for the 6P ADD and RESPONSE messages or is this 
> slotframe only meant to allocate data transmissions cells from (and should 
> the actual ADD and RESPONSE messages be sent somewhere else) or both? What is 
> the current recommended policy for this (if there is any)? Is it for example 
> also possible that 6P messages are sent in between normal data transmissions 
> and thus not in a separate, dedicated slotframe?
> 
> I am also wondering if there is a similar policy on which type of cell should 
> preferably be used for 6P ADD and RESPONSE messages (or other 6P commands in 
> general): should one choose for Transmit or Shared cells? For me, the second 
> option looks the more intuitive one as you could have some kind of minor 
> management slotframe in which the motes contend to do 6P transactions (but of 
> course, having such a “shared” management frame could be a bit much in the 
> context of TSCH).
> 
> I do not any other information on this topic in the different drafts or 
> mailing list.
> 
> As a third and last question, related to those shared cells, I noticed that 
> there is some work done in the 6TiSCH simulator on shared cells by Xavier 
> Vilajosana and Mališa Vučinić. Is the usage of a shared cell fully working or 
> is this work in progress as I see that the commits are very recent?
> 
> Kind regards,
> Glenn
> 
> -- 
> Glenn Daneels
> IDLab research group
> Dept. Mathematics and Computer Science
> University of Antwerp - imec
> Campus Middelheim, Building G, Office M.G.212
> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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