I agree ICMPv6 echo request/reply is mandatory to be implemented. Another point is the ICMPv6 may use the 6LoRH format or not, which also need to be tested at some point. If two vendors implement different format or implement not properly, they can't test the timing template also.
Tengfei On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Thomas Watteyne <[email protected]> wrote: > yep, that's what I was missing. I now understand your point. > > One important advantage of ping is that you create, with one command > downstream data (root->mote) then upstream data (mote->root) with an ACK > for every packet. This allows you to have a full record of every case in > one go. Using another method (e.g. 6P) would be less immediate. > > Would you (or anyone else) agree that mandating the implementation of > ICMPv6 echo request/reply is a realistic requirement? > > Thomas > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Tengfei Chang <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> If a vendor implements the timing template correctly but doesn't support >> ping echo request, the vendor can't pass the test. >> >> Tengfei >> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Thomas Watteyne <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Tengfei, >>> >>> I'm afraid I don't quite follow. >>> >>> Any traffic (ping, EB, etc) will result is frames being exchanged >>> between neighbor, which allows us to verify timing inside the timeslot, no? >>> >>> Probably missing something, >>> >>> Thomas >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Tengfei Chang <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Remy, >>>> >>>> The draft looks great! Thanks for updating! >>>> >>>> I have reviewed the draft and have one comment on the test: >>>> TD_6TiSCH_FORMAT_02 >>>> >>>> It says a ping echo request packet is used to test the timing template. >>>> I think we shouldn't use layer 3 packets to test layer 2 behaviors. >>>> >>>> What other layer 2 packet can we use for this test? keep alive packet >>>> can be used for testing from 6N->Dagroot. >>>> But there is no layer 2 packet from Dagroot to 6N requiring ACK. >>>> >>>> What do you think? >>>> Tengfei >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Remy Leone <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Please find an updated version of the test description joined. As >>>>> always, the source is here: https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/td-6tisch/src >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All comments are welcomed. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> Rémy >>>>> >>>>> Le mer. 7 juin 2017 à 16:40, Thomas Watteyne <[email protected]> >>>>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Remy for putting together such a comprehensive list of tests. >>>>>> With Pascal, we have set aside time during the interim on Friday [1] >>>>>> to discuss this. >>>>>> Thomas >>>>>> >>>>>> [1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/6tisch/current/msg >>>>>> 05340.html >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Remy Leone <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I created a pull request containing the test descriptions program >>>>>>> for the next plugfest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://bitbucket.org/6tisch/td-6tisch/pull-requests/5/ietf99/diff >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's the first draft. >>>>>>> It will be discussed on Friday and the final one will be published >>>>>>> on June 15th. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once this list of test description is approved I will merge it, tag >>>>>>> this commit (ietf99_plugfest) and release it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> @all: Could you take a look at the list of tasks presented and tell >>>>>>> me what you think. Find attached in this email the list of tests in a >>>>>>> PDF >>>>>>> file. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rémy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> 6tisch mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> Thomas Watteyne, PhD >>>>>> Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria >>>>>> Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech >>>>>> Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN >>>>>> Co-chair, IETF 6TiSCH >>>>>> >>>>>> www.thomaswatteyne.com >>>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> 6tisch mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/6tisch >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chang Tengfei, >>>> Pre-Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> _______________________________________ >>> >>> Thomas Watteyne, PhD >>> Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria >>> Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech >>> Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN >>> Co-chair, IETF 6TiSCH >>> >>> www.thomaswatteyne.com >>> _______________________________________ >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Chang Tengfei, >> Pre-Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria >> > > > > -- > _______________________________________ > > Thomas Watteyne, PhD > Research Scientist & Innovator, Inria > Sr Networking Design Eng, Linear Tech > Founder & co-lead, UC Berkeley OpenWSN > Co-chair, IETF 6TiSCH > > www.thomaswatteyne.com > _______________________________________ > -- Chang Tengfei, Pre-Postdoctoral Research Engineer, Inria
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