On Tuesday 26 December 2006 09:48 am, David Kaiser wrote: > Wine? Like a good red to keep the rants at bay? :) Or the > library to run Pagemaker on Linux? Jeff, I'd be curious if you have > a success story about running something that uses quite a bit of GDI > under wine, if you could post your success story here... I suspect > Pagemaker 6.5 or one of the pre-2000/XP ones may work OK, it'd be > neat to see it work.
I won't have the time to try for a while; if I did I might take the time to try to learn Scribus <smile>. I can't even make PM 6.5 work on a newer Windows; that's why I've still got an old W98 machine around even though I own licenses for W2K and for WXP. > An example of this is Gimp. I love Gimp, it does everything I need > it to do, and I find the menu and toolbox structures to extremely > well designed. Across the board, however, 99% of Photoshop users > hate Gimp. Yes, it does great high quality photo editing, etc... but > they miss the layout of Photoshop, the menus and tools in the places > they expect them. (Not me, I hate Photoshop's menu layout) Now on that subject: yesterday in B&N I noticed a new book on GIMP. I don't know how long it's been around, but I was happy to find a nice thick book on using an open source project besides Linux. Perhaps I'll even buy it some day <smile>. > If I was a traditional office app user, switching to a new > application that claimed to be an equivalent, and if it was missing > more than 2 key features, and the menu/layout was all different, I > might not feel like switching either. In the case of Scribus, the whole concept appears to have faults. At least to me. For example, there's nothing you can do to get italic or bold, short of completely changing type faces. Sure, we know that's what PageMaker does, at least if it can, and at least when dealing with Type 1 typefaces, but it hides that complexity from we poor mortals. Nor can I figure out how to make a simple ruled form without using two or three programs (I haven't even figured out where to start), even with one typeface. With PageMaker a form takes me under ten minutes. And when I asked for help on the users list I got put down for not somehow knowing it. So I gave up. Now all I do with Scribus is my best to rant against it. Maybe some day the developers will figure out that users have to be able to use it for it to be successful. > (2-sided PDF, could be printed and laminated) which shows Gimp for > Photoshop users, or Scribus for Pagemaker users. I'd settle for Scribus for would-be Scribus users. If someone can do for Scribus what's been done for GIMP, I'll buy it. > Well, I'll try to install scribus this week and make a flyer and > export to a PDF or something. See how well I fare... That's another thing about Scribus ... no output capabilities. All it can do is convert to a PDF. Most output houses (think printshops) want more than that to do a good job. Care to work on it with me? Come here? Or have me come to you? I've got a perfect form to convert <smile>. Jeff -- Jeff Lasman, Nobaloney Internet Services 1254 So Waterman Ave., Suite 50, San Bernardino, CA 92408 Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only Phone +1 909 266-9209, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html";
