On Thu Jan  5 13:26:16 EST 2012, [email protected] wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:01:52 EST erik quanstrom <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
> > > if you read 1TB, you have 8% chance of a silent bad read
> > > sector.  More important to worry about that in today's world
> > > than optimizing disk space use.
> > 
> > do you have a citation for this?  i know if you work out the
> > numbers from the BER, this is about what you get, but in
> > practice i do not see this 8%.  we do pattern writes all the
> > time, and i can't recall the last time i saw a "silent" read error.
> 
> Silent == unseen! Do you log RAID errors? Only way to catch them.
> 
> That number is derived purely on an bit error rate (I think
> vendors base that on the Reed-Solomon code used). No idea how
> "uniformly random" the data (or medium) is in practice. I
> thought the "practice" was worse!

i thought your definition of silent was not caught by the on-drive
ecc.  i think this is not very likely,   and we're explicitly checking for
this byrunning massive numbers of disks through pattern writes with
verification, and don't see it.

- erik

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