Yeah, thank goodness for snapshots :O Running replica/pull didn't turn out
so good for my current running system. It looks like it might make the most
sense to just archive my home directory and reload a fresh VM ...

Where are they keeping the most current installation ISO these days? I'm
just not sure of what's canonical now that the old bell-labs.com domain is
offline.

Thanks!

Sean


On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sean,
>
> David's (0intro) instructions are the right way to do it.  If I recall
> correctly, if you want to update by rebuilding from updated sources,
> there's a careful dance that needs to happen for the transition from old
> Rune size to the new.  Geoff sent out a note to 9fans outlining the steps
> at that time; you might be able to find it on 9fans archive (which
> unfortunately is not what it used to be).
>
> -Skip
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:40 PM Sean Caron <sca...@umich.edu> wrote:
>
>> Answering my own silly question, on my fossil-based system, running the
>> following command on the console as the bootes user seems to get the update
>> process running:
>>
>> replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network
>>
>> I'll wait for this to complete and then give building Go another shot.
>> Thanks for answering my shot in the dark!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Sean Caron <sca...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Skip. That would follow; this system is probably straight Fourth
>>> Edition, certainly an old ISO...
>>>
>>> I've never been 100% clear on the process for running updates; can I
>>> bring myself up to current from where I'm at now and not have to reload or
>>> build a fresh system? It's a VM and I can snapshot so I'm willing to give
>>> anything a try ...
>>>
>>> I'm looking at the directions in a (cached copy) of
>>> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Staying_up_to_date/index.html...
>>>
>>> Is that still valid? What's the canonical procedure these days for
>>> updating a system?
>>>
>>> If that's roughly correct ... I'm running a single Plan 9 machine,
>>> combined CPU and fileserver ... I run that command as the bootes user on
>>> the system console?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Skip Tavakkolian <
>>> skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All the errors seem related to the old Rune size. I suspect you're
>>>> running an old system and it's likely to not have nsec and tsemacquire
>>>> syscalls either.
>>>>
>>>> If you believe the system is up-to-date, you can cross compile a simple
>>>> Go program using 1.5 or later targeting GOOS=plan9 GOARCH=386 from a
>>>> Linux/OSX or Windows box and see if it runs on your system.  That might
>>>> give you more info.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:44 PM Sean Caron <sca...@umich.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been getting interested in programming in Go recently and it's my
>>>>> understanding that at some point in time, Plan 9 was a supported
>>>>> environment in which one could bootstrap and use Go?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried a few different versions; 1.2.2, 1.4.2, 1.5.2, just
>>>>> following the directions that I found on a blog somewhere, i.e:
>>>>>
>>>>> tar xf go 1.4.2.tar
>>>>> cd go-go1.4.2/src
>>>>> ./all.rc
>>>>>
>>>>> But it fails almost immediately trying to bootstrap Go:
>>>>>
>>>>> cpu% ./all.rc
>>>>> # Building C bootstrap tool.
>>>>> cmd/dist
>>>>>
>>>>> # Building compilers and Go bootstrap tool for host, plan9/386.
>>>>> lib9
>>>>> cpp: /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:226
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../utf.h:1
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/utf.h:5
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../fmt.h:21
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/fmt.h:5
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/libc.h:6
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/flag.c:6 Unterminated string or char const
>>>>>
>>>>> I get a fair number of these errors for various header files, then
>>>>> some more worrisome output:
>>>>>
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dorfmt.c:152]
>>>>> external redeclaration of: Rune
>>>>> TYPEDEF UINT
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dorfmt.c:152]
>>>>> TYPEDEF USHORT
>>>>> /386/include/u.h:11[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dorfmt.c:21]
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/flag.c:153]
>>>>> external redeclaration of: Rune
>>>>> TYPEDEF UINT
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/flag.c:153]
>>>>> TYPEDEF USHORT
>>>>> /386/include/u.h:11[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/flag.c:22]
>>>>> cpp: /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:227
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../utf.h:1
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/utf.h:5
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/libc.h:7
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/charstod.c:20 Unterminated string or
>>>>> char const
>>>>> go tool dist: FAILED: /bin/8c -FTVwp -DPLAN9 -D__STDC__=1
>>>>> -D__SIZE_TYPE__=ulong -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9
>>>>> -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/386 -DPLAN9PORT -I
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9 -o $WORK/dorfmt.8
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dorfmt.c:
>>>>> '/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/pkg/obj/plan9_386/lib9.a' does not exist
>>>>> go tool dist: FAILED: /bin/8c -FTVwp -DPLAN9 -D__STDC__=1
>>>>> -D__SIZE_TYPE__=ulong -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9
>>>>> -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/386 -DPLAN9PORT -I
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9 -o $WORK/flag.8
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/flag.c:
>>>>> '/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/pkg/obj/plan9_386/lib9.a' does not exist
>>>>> cpp: /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:227
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../utf.h:1
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/utf.h:5
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/libc.h:7
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dofmt.c:20 Unterminated string or char
>>>>> const
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/charstod.c:152]
>>>>> external redeclaration of: Rune
>>>>> TYPEDEF UINT
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/charstod.c:152]
>>>>> TYPEDEF USHORT
>>>>> /386/include/u.h:11[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/charstod.c:21]
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dofmt.c:152]
>>>>> external redeclaration of: Rune
>>>>> TYPEDEF UINT
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/../../src/lib9/utf/utf.h:19[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dofmt.c:152]
>>>>> TYPEDEF USHORT
>>>>> /386/include/u.h:11[/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dofmt.c:21]
>>>>> go tool dist: FAILED: /bin/8c -FTVwp -DPLAN9 -D__STDC__=1
>>>>> -D__SIZE_TYPE__=ulong -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9
>>>>> -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/386 -DPLAN9PORT -I
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9 -o $WORK/charstod.8
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/charstod.c:
>>>>> '/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/pkg/obj/plan9_386/lib9.a' does not exist
>>>>> go tool dist: FAILED: /bin/8c -FTVwp -DPLAN9 -D__STDC__=1
>>>>> -D__SIZE_TYPE__=ulong -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9
>>>>> -I/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/include/plan9/386 -DPLAN9PORT -I
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9 -o $WORK/dofmt.8
>>>>> /usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/src/lib9/fmt/dofmt.c:
>>>>> '/usr/scaron/go-go1.4.2/pkg/obj/plan9_386/lib9.a' does not exist
>>>>>
>>>>> At that point the build fails and I drop back to the rc prompt.
>>>>>
>>>>> While the example I cite above is for version 1.4.2, I believe the
>>>>> failure mode is pretty much the same for both earlier and later versions
>>>>> that I've tried to build.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is my Plan 9 installation "too old"? I'm using pretty bog-standard
>>>>> Fourth Edition on this particular instance; 9atom doesn't seem to get 
>>>>> along
>>>>> with VMware ESXi (at least, not last time I checked).
>>>>>
>>>>> Any help greatly appreciated! I'd love to be able to use Go within
>>>>> Plan 9.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>

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