I  believe you Steve, but I also believe noam. He's apparently the
biggest lover of fossil around out here.

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:39 AM Steve Simon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> i read the paper.
>
> i can believe there are still bugs, truth be told there are bugs in most 
> software. all i can say is in my experience i have not hit any since the 
> ephemeral snapshot fix. Honestly fosdil has been solid for me; i hope i have 
> not just jinx’ed it :-)
>
> -Steve
>
>
> > On 15 May 2024, at 11:18 pm, hiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > noam said there's also some well-known issues with locks that still
> > keeps happening in fossil. did you watch the outcome of last iwp9? he
> > has the best description of the state of venti and fossil to date.
> >
> >> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:08 AM Steve Simon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Just a little first hand experience - I have run a fossil and venti server 
> >> for twenty years now.
> >>
> >> Fossil suffered three problems in my opinion:
> >>
> >> Firstly it was not well publicised that fossil was never designed to cope 
> >> with overflow; the sad truth is it fails catastrophically, as whitenessed 
> >> by Brucee. it should cope better really, but when used as a write buffer 
> >> for venti this is unlikely, it has never happened to me.
> >>
> >> Secondly it had a race condition in the ephemeral snapshot code. the only 
> >> way to make fossil reliable was to turn these off. This bug was fixed by 
> >> Charles (i think, though perhaps it was Richard) about 10 years ago and 
> >> with the fix my server has been taking ephemeral snapshots ever since.
> >>
> >> Thirdly venti and fossil are slow.
> >>
> >> I think its sad (an emotion, sorry) that fossil sources where deleted from 
> >> 9front but i do understand the principal of not distributing things the 
> >> community does not wish to support.
> >>
> >> -Steve
> >>

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