I now have bigger problems.  I re-started the system, my intention being to
try the install procedure of one of the youtube videos I saw, that used
gefs.  Part-way through that, I grew frustrated with the fact that the
system was only using a small amount of my screen, and decided to try to
back-track to use the command that fixes this.  In other words, I tried to
get out of inst/start.  I failed.  When it became clear I didn't have a
clue what I was doing and it wasn't working (not hard), I did the only
thing I could think of, a hard-reboot.  ..that was a mistake.  Well, there
was a mistake somewhere.  Now, when I boot.. I get to the screen where it
asks me to input the password to my hard-drive.. I can't.  I am using my
laptop via an external keyboard, connected via usb.  The keyboard does not
respond.  I have put in fresh batteries.  Checked that it is switched on,
nothing.  I am using an external keyboard because the contacts of the
ordinary keyboard have oxydized.  This is because I did a motherboard swap
a long time ago in such a way that I left the computer dissassembled for
months, not realizing the effect it would have on the contacts.  So, long
story short, something about what I did during the install procedure
(trying to exit it, then rebooting in the middle of it) killed the ability
of the computer to read the keyboard.  ..I can re-do my attempt to boot
using another hard-drive, but I suspect the motherboard is fried..  ..I
actually have another motherboard I can use, ironically enough.. now I
think about it.. the one in there now is used, cheep..  Also, the
hard-drive -has- had issues, it isn't new, squeeky clean.. ..I expect I'll
get back to you all once I've replaced both the ssd and the motherboard..
this will take a few days..

On Sun, Nov 9, 2025 at 11:35 PM Ori Bernstein <[email protected]> wrote:

> I haven't seen this before. It would be useful to see the full output,
> including the suggestions.
>
> On Sun, 9 Nov 2025 21:39:29 -0500, Michael Jensen <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Greetings again all.
> >
> > I have now attempted to install 9front.  On my dell latitude e7450.  I
> > followed the instructions at fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html.
> >
> > I encountered the following problems:
> >
> > I get as far a section 4.3.8 - prepdisk.  I follow the recommendation of
> > accepting the suggestion, and type w, then hit <enter>
> >
> > Normally, it should accept that, and I follow it up with q.
> >
> > Instead, I get:
> >
> > "
> > error writing partition table to disk
> > attempting to restore partitions to previous state
> > cannot restore: error seeking on disk
> > "
> >
> > It then sends me up a menu, and I get to re-specify a bunch of things.
> > It gets back to approximately the same place, except this time, instead
> of
> > suggesting a layout, I get:
> >
> > "disk/prep: cannot open disk: file too small to be a disk"
> >
> > Continuing, I keep getting that error, even if I tell it to use esp as my
> > 9fat partition.
> >
> > I have consulted one youtube tutorial where they use the gefs as the file
> > system instead of the default in the tutorial.  if that works, great.
> > Thought I should report this though.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Mike :-)
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2025 at 6:03 PM Michael Jensen <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings :-)
> > >
> > > ..I am currently in a deep exploration of operating systems.
> > > windows->ubuntu->guix&openbsd, with many more tried en-route.  now I'm
> > > hearing about plan9 and oberon.  So, plan9 is the bees-knees?  People
> > > daydream wistfully about a world where it dominates..  So.. shall we
> get on
> > > with it?  :-)  Unfortunately, I go to the wiki for instructions on
> > > installing it (
> > > https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Installation_instructions/index.html), and
> > > find: "Beware: in the manner of wikis most everywhere, this one is
> > > woefully out of date.
> > > <
> https://plan9.io/wiki/plan9/Beware:_in_the_manner_of_wikis_most_everywhere,_this_one_is_woefully_out_of_date
> .>"
> > > ..this is not encouraging.  In fact, it stops me in my tracks and
> causes me
> > > to write this e-mail instead.
> > >
> > > ..I currently have three computers.  Dell Latitudes e7450 and e7440,
> and a
> > > Thinkpad T430.  I am open to buying another one if there is a
> particular
> > > one that is recommended for plan9.  I can get another
> > > more-or-less-realiable T430 for ~150 can.  ..I might poke around
> trying to
> > > follow the given instructions.. but my instinct says that I won't, not
> > > without more assurance of support.
> > >
> > > ..You may be wondering how I heard about plan9 in the first place.
> Keep
> > > in mind, hearing about it and becoming convinced it's worth
> investigating,
> > > are two different things.  I credit, in historical order, "The Art of
> Unix
> > > Programming", Suckless, and vis (the editor).  vis are the people whose
> > > documentation prodded me into seriously checking it out.  (..Of
> course, now
> > > that I search specifically for plan9, I get plenty of hits..)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Michael :-)
> > >
> >
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